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Neutered Male Cat Mounting Other Male Cats?

March 8, 2007

Two male Persian cats.I got 2 new 9 month old male kittens. I brought them into a home with neutered male and female cats (all are neutered by the way). The oldest reigning male cat of the household is started to try and be overly friendly with the biggest male kitten! This is so gross. How do we fix this? I've done the water bottle squirting in the face. Still happened again. In the meantime, my next action until I get a better suggestion is to continue to squirt with water and put him in the timeout box (the pet taxi carrier).

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Leave him there for a bit. Might even make him sleep there in the nighttime to avoid a problem while asleep. I don't know what else to do. Anyone else had this problem and solved it, and if so, how so? Thanks to everyone in advance for the help!

Lori

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March 10, 20073 found this helpful

You need do nothing. This is normal behavior. Most male cats I've had have done this, and the vet has said it is natural behavior. You may find it to be "gross," but it's part of nature.

 
March 12, 20072 found this helpful

The cat is acting normal.You are applying what you think should be normal behavoir for a human to a cat.Cats,as any animal, do not have the same moral compass as you.I am sure you may have heard this old joke.A vet visits a woman who tells him she can't understand how her cat keeps getting pregnant.At that moment a big tom cat walks by and the vet says what about that tom cat.The woman replies don't be silly thats her brother.

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Let the cats be cats and not humans.You will only have a break down treating cats as children.

 
March 12, 20070 found this helpful

This has nothing to do with sex, but rather your older male cat is exhibiting his dominance over the newcomers. This is normal and will continue to happen whenever he feels it necessary to put them in their place, so to speak.

 
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March 12, 20070 found this helpful

ditto all of the posts...we have a female dog who will "hump" the cat...it is a sign of dominance and not a sexual move...just looks like one!!

 

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March 13, 20070 found this helpful

Yes, everybody is right. The oldest male is the "Alpha Cat" and making sure the new little one (who might have an attitude!) knows who's boss.

 
By lindau (Guest Post)
March 13, 20070 found this helpful

my 7 year old male cat gets on my side when I am laying on my bed and watching tv and humps on me and meows he has been nuetrued a long time ago, the vet says some cats just do that, or some thing simular grrrrr

 
March 18, 20071 found this helpful

I have 3 female (fixed) cats, and it is funny to sometimes see them trying to get ahold of each other's neck (in the back), as if they were going to mate. It IS just a domination move, though. I leave them alone unless they get unnecessarily rough. If that it what's up at your place I'd talk to a few vets for advice.

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October 25, 20170 found this helpful

What about if I have a younger male cat who is doing this to the older male cat? They are both neutered...

 
March 8, 20180 found this helpful

I actually have a real answer to this! I did post yesterday with the same problem- & I found a great way to deal with this behavior. My male neuter was mounting, biting, and unfortunately- penetrating (barf!) the poor, darling male kitten- which I knew right then and there that the "innocent and natural" behavior must end. *Warning*: do NOT- I repeat, do not punish or yell at your cat when it does this! Yelling, hitting or throwing things only make it WORSE as it adds stress (which may even be the cause of the behavior) and aggression in the cat also, adding to the dominance behaviors. The neutered male cat was constantly bothering the male kitten, there seemed to be no relief unless I physically separated them, which was not the best in my house to have separate rooms all of the time for each cat. So, I know all of the cats just go berserk with a laser pointer cat toy (the only color cats can see is red, I didn't believe it before, but I do now, but that's another topic on how I found out for sure that it is indeed a fact)

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Every time the male neuter exhibited the "mating" behavior: calling, staring at the male kitten, following him or mounting him, I distracted him with the laser pointer- don't aim it AT him, just draw his attention away from his "objet' desire" to the laser dot. I got them good and excited, all of the cats joined in the fun in trying to catch that red dot! I would give them a chance to relax...and kept the laser toy right handy in my pocket to break out at the least hint of him trying to mount again! Even in bed, I kept it in my pyjama bottoms pocket at the ready- and I DID use it too.

GUESS WHAT? This morning, he didn't try to hurt the kitten even ONCE. I think, his brain was "stuck"? in that mode, and he was bored, and that was the only thing he could think about. The laser toy kind of "unhooked" his brain from that train of thought and got him into other things. It also kind of tired the cats out.

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The cats can get way over-excited with this toy and I had to calm them down a few times, so they wouldn't like have a heart attack or something. They get so nuts over that laser toy.

Try it, and good luck!!!

 
April 6, 20180 found this helpful

My younger cat (3 yrs) does it to my older one(6years) both males. My only concern is that the older one starts yelling. He doesn't like it so I don't like it either, and I'll help him out. Both get the affection they want, cause they both want different kinds at different times. The younger one even waits to eat even tho he doesn't need to. Am I wrong for helping my tub of ham out when he yells?

 
March 3, 20190 found this helpful

What about cats who are about the same age? I have two male cats that are only a few months apart. They have been together most of thier lives but recently the slightly older one has been pinning the other one down, flipping him on his back and massaging him.

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He also does this wired thing with his legs where he will constantly shift around. It would make sense to me if it was the other way around but this cat is usually very shy and docile. I didnt think he had an I submissive bone in his body.

 
May 21, 20221 found this helpful

Ok I do agree that you should never take any negative action ie the crazy lady squirting water in the cats face is so wrong. The laser is a good idea but can also create frustration as it is in catchable. I will place a treat somewhere in the house , so when I play with the laser pointer I will end with it on the treat. This will result In a satisfied kitty that he/ she caught their prey and not be frustrated that they could not ever catch the elusive fun dot . Remember patience, praise, and repetition that is the way to train your kitties.

 
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December 23, 2004

I have never heard of this problem with cats. My niece has two neutered male cats, Sammi and Buddha. They are about 5 years old and are from the same litter. They have been together since birth without any problems. They are inside cats, fed well, and well loved. They were recently to the vet and have a clean bill of health.



Sammi is showing signs of sexual aggression. He mounts Buddha and grabs his neck, and trys to mate. It happens in a matter of seconds. So far, this has happened in her presence, five to six times. Buddha never challenges Sammi.

Other than that, they play together, eat together, basically get along very well. I would think this is a sign of dominance. She is on a limited financial budget so we are going to do research before she decides to take him to the vet.

We also considered the fact that my niece in the past few months has been working full time and going to school at nights. Sammi and Buddha are her only companions. Could it be jealousy? Is Sammi letting his brother know that he doesn't want to share her affections? I would appreciate any input.

Thank you.
"Mike"

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December 27, 20040 found this helpful

We have two neutered dogs that do the same thing - it's annoying, but with dogs, it means that the one is trying to establish dominence. I would assume this would also be true of cats. :)

 
December 31, 20040 found this helpful

I have a male neutered rescue cat. He began the thrusting behavior on a pillow of a frog, on top of it's head which has plastic eyeballs.

I have two pillows, one frog and one alligator for each of my two rescue cats. The cats, one female, both sleep on these pillows and no one else uses them.

My boy goes through different emotions with this frog and sometimes avoids it refusing to go near it. Other times he will knead it with his paws and still other times seems to try to mate with it's head. He used to just sleep on it but the behavior started after we moved.

He doesn't bother with the alligator at all. My girl just kneads both of the pillows with her paws.

 
January 1, 20050 found this helpful

I have a funny thing about my pets... I have 3 female cats and a yorkie terrier .. I have a mommy cat and her 2 kittens well they are about 3 years old now but my yorkie that is not fixed he tries to mate with the cats... and they seem to look for him to let him do it all the time its quite funny... my husband wont let me fixthe yorkie he wanrs to breed him but he jokes and said we will have catdogs one day and get rich....

 
January 4, 20050 found this helpful

This is interesting! We have two older pure-bred cats, one male, one female, both have been neutered. The female "knows" she is the "queen" and expects to be treated royally. The male (who is her half-brother and a year younger) is the vocal one with his meows, but the passive one as for as agression. However, I caught him doing that very same thing today, trying to "mount" the female, and it has happened in the past! But of course he gets himself slapped silly by the female, and it really made the female angry yesterday. I don't know what's going on, either, and this is an interesting inquiry, so thank you for asking...maybe someone can give us answers!! As the dog-owner in one of these postings suggested, I think he is trying to gain dominance.... but he usually is so laid-back and "I don't care"-acting while the female wants to get all the lap-time attention. (I'll post a photo of our male if I can get it to work.)

 
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February 19, 20050 found this helpful

I have four cats, two male and two female, all neutered. The younger male cat is about a year and a half old. He has always been very affectionate to me and kneaded my hair whilst I am asleep/ in bed, but recently he has started thrusting and pushing on my head. I push him away but he gets quite aggressive and jumps on top of my head making a funny mewing sound.
Since then he has also started kneading my clothes and yesterday I caught him on top of my big cuddly toy cat. He had mounted it and had the scruff of it's neck in his mouth, he was also thrusting his groin.
He always licks his genitals after doing this action.
I am getting quite concerned about it and not sure whether to take him to the vets.
When he is doing this thrusting action he acts like a different cat and once it is over he goes back to being a very happy, affectionate, playful cat.

Does anyone know if this is something he may grow out of as it seems to have developed in the last few months.
I've read the posts about dominance etc. but he usually makes sure he is the centre of attention anyway and pushes my other cats out the way. This thrusting is something he does when he is on his own with me.
Does anyone have any suggestions?

 
By micki449 (Guest Post)
August 10, 20051 found this helpful

My 11-month old male cat started doing this a few months ago. I woke up one night to see him doing what appeared as if giving a massage to his teddy bear on the floor. I was shocked and disturbed by this because I did not know that even neutered cats will do this. I almost creid, because he was "moma's baby"! Nowadays you can find him toting his "girlfriend" around the house, massaging her back and biting her neck. He sometimes brings his girlfriend in my bed while I am sleeping. I now have to warn people before they come over that they may witness some strange things with the cat and his bear!

 
March 7, 20082 found this helpful

We have five cats, 2 male and 3 female, all fixed. Gradually my oldest male cat(Theo) began mounting and now is penetrating the youngest male cat(Charlie). It has all been rather overwhelming considering we have recently added our 7 month old baby to the "litter".
I assume that there was penetration based upon the screams coarsing from our bedroom and the positioning of the two upon the light switch thrown on. You'd think that there could not be anything more alarming, but they DID NOT move when I flew into the room! Not a flinch or a hesitation! I had to literally pull them apart. Although I paint a picture the visually wasn't anything like two stuck dogs. After I let Charlie outside I went back to Theo and his kitty penis was out and throbing and let's just say, I clearly left Theo feeling unsatisfied, as he kept his head buried between his legs for longer then I should have noticed.
After reading some of the feedback we feel much better about our kitty situation. Not to offend anybody but now these two are known as the "Brokeback Cats"

 
May 17, 20120 found this helpful

My dogs do this. They are both neutered and I think its to show dominance. One is female and she occasionally sucks the other dogs penis but only very briefly and he does not really seem to get off. She does not seem all that sexually interested as she just kind of licks it and walks away. I think its a dominance thing.

 
March 7, 20180 found this helpful

You can take him to the vet if you want to, but it will be a total waste of money! Your vet will say "If I had the cure for that, I would be a millionaire". I had a male neuter that did this to a toy stuffed rabbit. The plush rabbit was realistic looking, and my male cat knew "which end was which" and did the same actions as your cat. Now, with a plush animal I don't exactly like, but won't annoy me terribly. What DOES annoy me terribly, and bothers me greatly- is a rescued adult male cat, who "rapes" our cute adorable male kitten- who reciprocates by being submissive. I understand this is a dominance kind of thing- the rescued neuter is very cowardly and aggressive to the other cats, and takes it out on poor cute male kitten. I tried using the laser pointer cat toy thing, they're fine while they're playing but as soon as I quit, they are back to the icky behavior. I might not have minded so badly but the neutered male hurts the kitten by biting his neck and well, um I won't go into it but you can guess (gross!) and may physically injure the kitten.

But I myself would not bother going to the vets over it as the vet can do nothing, other than give advice, or MAYBE supply birth control pills to the male, if they even would go that far. Birth control pills provide female hormones to the male, making him less masculine and perhaps less aggressive/dominant. Our older male cat had to have them to reduce a prostrate tumour- the pills were the same ones given to humans, but a small small cat size dosage.

 
March 7, 20180 found this helpful

LOL! We have two "Brokeback Mountain" cats, we made jokes (pray the gay away, etc) but honestly we are both a bit concerned about the kitten (well, a young male cat, not tiny kitten- he's 6 months old) that is being "abused" by the male neuter rescue we got. I'm keeping them separated for now, hoping the "urges" subside, but in meantime the rescue cat keeps crying and calling from his "jail" bedroom. I feel I may get an ulcer from all this stress over these cats. Sigh.

 
October 24, 20190 found this helpful

Hi. I am no expert but I do have two male rescues. Cats.
My Birdie also did the same to me. He has since stopped. I think maybe what your cat is trying to do is, Love you and claim you as his own. He is brash adventurous and his emotions and hormones have awakened. Crazy? Yeah. But normal for a crazy environment. You have four cats. All living together with you indoors. So you also are a Cat. Don't worry. But do get him checked for a UTI. Also let him have your stuffie or get him his own. If he gets too aggressive Then go to the vet. Take care.

 
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March 11, 2020

My male cat is 6 months old and not neutered. He is trying to mate with his brother. Is it good or bad? Why would he do so?

What should I do? I am worried for his brother. Now he doesn't play like before because of this.

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March 11, 20200 found this helpful

Get him to the vet and get him neutered ASAP. This means the cat is of age now and will soon be spraying around your home. You do not want this to happen. Once he is neutered this should stop this behavior.

 
March 11, 20201 found this helpful

Mounting is not always a sign of mating. Often it is just a sign of dominance. The young one is trying to be the boss. Some of that is natural, but make sure he knows YOU are the boss.

 

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March 12, 20200 found this helpful

That is normal behaviour for cats who have been neutered it takes a few weeks for the hormones to settle down.Sometimes if they have a UTI they will do it to.

 

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March 13, 20201 found this helpful

yes, he should be altered ASAP before the spraying starts. Once he starts spraying, even after he's altered, he will keep doing it.

In many animals humping is a sign of dominance more than anything, and could be a personality quirk that will persist

 
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September 17, 2019

I've only been able to find information online about one cat dominantly humping another, but I have two neutered male cats who hump each other in equal amounts! They're from the same litter, and are a bonded pair. One is dominant over the other, but they both take turns mounting each other just for about a minute at a time. Neither cat seems to mind much when it's their turn to be the "victim," with a benign facial expression and purring.

I watched the less dominant cat bat the more dominant cat away just now, which instantly stopped the behavior - and then they groomed each other right away and fell asleep cuddling. Then the less dominant one suddenly woke up, seemingly startled and a little trance-like (gave me a weird "I'm looking through you" stare with wide eyes), and then tried to mount the more dominant cat. I intervened before he could, distracting and then giving both cats some petting and attention once they were separated. They are still sleeping next to each other now.

What's up with them taking turns, and not being particularly aggressive about it? Is this a stress reaction? Again, they don't seem to mind, but I've also never seen them do this before (they are both 11 years old). They've just had to move with me to a much smaller house, so I imagine a lot of this might be spatial. I've read some suggestions to place food and water further apart, add a litter box, and add more toys to reduce stress and boredom during the day. What more can I do to add space or interest in a very small house, if that is indeed the problem? And is it likely that they're doing this when they're home alone during the day (usually from 8:30 AM to 3 PM)? So far I've only seen this happen after about 10 PM.

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September 17, 20190 found this helpful

It could be stress in the home. If there is no stress, I would just ignore it.

 

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September 17, 20190 found this helpful

This is called Dominance Behavior, even though they are neutered,it is something that can happen. To them contest it's who is better than the other! If you need confirmation and peace of mind,contact a Vet!

 

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September 18, 20190 found this helpful

Ask your vet, but I have seen this happen and it is just cats being cats.

If they get clean bills of health, just ignore it.

 

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September 23, 20190 found this helpful

This is a normal behavior in cats and also in dogs. I have 5 Bichon dogs here and 2 of them are brothers from the male and female that is here at my home. They seem to love to do this to each other and at times I can see the small female humping the two boys. I just tell them to stop and they move on. All of my dogs are fixed so I am not worried about this behavior.

 
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April 16, 2017

I have 2 male cats, Tommy 4 and BJ 15. Tommy has been mounting and hurting BJ. BJ is getting cornered, bumped, and pushed around. Even when BJ is sleeping he lays next to him.

If BJ goes somewhere Tom gets up and follows him. I'm going away for a week and I'm afraid Tommy will fracture his legs; BJ is skinny and Tom is fat.

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April 16, 20170 found this helpful

You need to separate these cats. If you are worried about one cat being hurt, the other cat may have to find a new home.

 

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April 17, 20170 found this helpful

Are they new to each other or is this a new thing happening? I had a similar issue. I separated them and the younger/bigger one missed her older counterpart and became loving after they were reunited.

 

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April 17, 20170 found this helpful

I'm assuming Tom is neutered. If not, that would be the obvious next step. Then I agree separating them for awhile (a couple of pet gates) would be my next move.

 
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March 24, 2019

I have 4 male cats, all neutered. 3 of them are about 9 years old and the other is about 5 years old. All of a sudden the older cats keep trying to mount the younger, more passive cat. They've never behaved like this before. Why would they all of a sudden start doing this now? Poor little Rusty is having a rough time dealing with this. They've always been very loving and gentle with him.


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March 24, 20190 found this helpful

It could be that they are trying to show dominance. They could also be trying to relieve stress. I would speak to the vet about this.

 

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March 25, 20190 found this helpful

You are likely to need your Vet for this issue. It may be a hormonal issue or a dominance issue or both. Look for any changes in your home that may be causing these males to become more aggressive. Do you have neighborhood cats that visit and can be challenging your older male cats? This is a very common problem and can make male cats more aggressive. You may need to block their view or discourage visiting cats. I set out a game camera one night and was amazed at how many critters visited my front porch. My cat of course saw them all.

 
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January 2, 2017

Connor is my biggest kitty. Connor and Murphy are from the same litter - born March 4 - and I think Mickey is around the same age, but we rescued him off the street so I can't be 100% sure. When Connor and Murphy were around 4 months old, Connor started expressing some dominance behaviors - pinning Murphy by the scruff and biting hard enough to make him cry. I got them both neutered; problem solved.

Mickey was doing that kind of stuff when we first rescued him. I got him neutered and it stopped. Suddenly, Connor is pulling the dominance act again. Pinning them and biting their necks pretty hard. I just caught him pinning and humping Murphy. What do I do? They were neutered in July or August - somewhere around there. And Mickey was neutered at least 2 months ago.

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January 4, 20170 found this helpful

I think you have done pretty much what you can do. It can take 6 months or so for all testosterone to leave your kitties. Some of these behaviors are not testosterone driven. It is just stuff young cats do. You should see some of these behaviors fade as they reach one year of age. Most of these behaviors are pretty normal and expected. I do understand they can sometimes look pretty naughty. I break things up if someone is really getting hurt. By 18 months they will be the best of friends.

 

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February 10, 20170 found this helpful

Neutering only stops aggressive behavior caused by sex drive, such as when two males are fighting over the same female. If the aggression is caused by anxiety, or something else, neutering won't help.

 
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