Hitachi HB-B201 Bread Not Rising
The breads have been tasty (except for those where I eventually tripled or quadrupled the yeast). I don't ever have to worry about crushing the bread when cutting it with a dull knife; either side of the blade. Storage is no problem. It doesn't seem to carry any charm for a passing rodent. The instruction booklet says nothing about the weaponization of bread flour; so I'm guessing that I'm doing something wrong.
If anyone has any "helpful" suggestions, I would love to hear it.
Don from Lake Kiowa, TX
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RE: Hitachi HB-B201 Bread Not Rising
I just make a bread in Hitachi -just a simple recipe from instruction manual, O my God! First time in my life and it just a PERFECT! I add 3 tea spoons of gluten to the recipe and take off the same amount of the bread flour! Thank you so much.
Post By elena (Guest Post)
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Hello! I had the same problem and I know what's going on! I had received a wonderful sourdough bread starter (over 8-years old and very, very sour and yummy), but when I followed the instructions to a "T", I got a 1 1/2 pound loaf which was a total of 3" tall; great paperweight, lousy loaf of bread. I finally watched the machine during the cooking process and found it rose during both rising times in the machine, but fell flat as can be during the baking process. Problem: too much moisture. When I watched the kneading process I found the dough never pulled away from the breadpan walls; it was too wet. I started adding extra flour, 1 tablespoon at a time until the dough formed a nice, spongy ball in the bottom of the breadpan and, when the bread was done, I had a beautiful loaf. I kept track of the additional flour I had added for future loaves, but found that weather conditions effected the bread-moisture on a daily basis, so it's important to keep track of the weather reports. If it's a particularly humid day, add an additional tablespoon of flour, but if the forecast predicts dry days ahead, cut back by a tablespoon. You should have great results, I promise. Trust me, I was there.
Post by RosiePosie
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I GOT BREAD! I used yet warmer water than the last near successful attempt, as well as yeast in the packets and I have a FULL LOAF OF BREAD! It has been so bloody long, I feel like dancin'. THANK YOU. Thank you everyone.
Post By Don (Guest Post)
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Update on the bread of obstinate. I tried some warm water (as opposed to normal temp tap water), and the dough approached the top on the first rise. It repeated that on the second rise and then like a building struck by a meteor from the southeast, it collapsed to crouton size on one corner and across the middle. The"loaf" did contain air holes and was more bread-like. This is delicious progress. Now I just need to work on the northwest corner.
And to kimhis (810), you have managed to extract the one phrase that sums up my life "so far" pretty much. I do thank you guys again for your suggestions. I will continue to implement those. Don
Post By Enter your name.Don (Guest Post)
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You made me laugh when you said "it doesn't seem to carry any charm for a passing rodent"...you really write well!
Post by kimhis
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Get a bottle of gluten and add a heaping teaspoon to the ingredients; this will help the loaf rise...
Post By Yankeedog (Guest Post)
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I don't know how to begin. I wasn't really expecting any assistance with this problem. You guys have seriously impressed me. Sorry I didn't check the email sooner. I was recovering from a 14 hour day in the Texas heat working on a westerly exposure roof. All of you have given me sufficient logical advice (approaches I need to employ) to keep me busy for several loaves.
Each of your individual imputs is greatly appreciated.
Don
Post By Don (Guest Post)
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Yes, the water must be tepid, not hot or cool, & I always make sure that the yeast is on top away from the water, as one of my bread makers heats up for a while before starting to mix, but since I found out about adding 1 to 3 teaspoon of lemon juice to the water. [ I use the " real lemon" from a bottle]. The bread rises really well. Also make sure the lid is closed correctly.
Post by savedone
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These are all good suggestions, except that yeast does not die in a couple of days. It lasts for quite sometime, especially if you keep it in the fridge or the freezer. However, I would suspect that it is the yeast that is causing you problems. It is critical to have warm -- not hot nor cold water to add to your bread maker. Too cold will delay the rising, and too hot a water could kill the yeast. Buy some new yeast, follow the directions and recipes that came with your bread maker, and talk to your neighbours and see if anyone else has trouble with the water affecting their bread. I have never heard of that, but it might very well be true of some very hard water. Certainly worth a try.
Since you don't know how this is going to work, buy your yeast in the individual packets. This ensures freshness, and you don't need great quantities until you can turn out a good loaf of bread.
Just a thought. Maybe it is something to do with the timer on this breadmaker, and it is not getting enough time to rise before it bakes the loaf. And are you sure you are using the right setting? Mine has settings for making rice and whatnot, that I have never used, but I am sure that those settings wouldn't make good bread!!!!LOL
Post by louel53
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Hi, it is essential to put the ingredients in the pan in the proper order...wet first, then dry. I keep my yeast in the freezer and measure it out directly from there.
Post By Holly (Guest Post)
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I was a Home Ec Extension Agent, a few things,
check dates on ingredients first. Do you have hard water? While getting my degree, I did research on BM and found out bread made either from scratch or BM, you should use Distilled water. Hard water has minerals that yeast doesn't work well with. Since this research was done, I always have a jug of distilled water on the shelf just for making bread and great cinnamin rolls. My own Breadmaker will do a 1 1/2 lb loaf, but sometimes I can get a nice 2lb loaf with just the difference in water. Try it, you might be surprised that it might be just your water.
Post By Robin (Guest Post)
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The temperature of the water is very inportant, make sure it is the temperature that is required in the receipe.
Post By Guest (Guest Post)
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I had this happen too. I even went and bought a new bread machine to find it was not the machine it was the yeast. Once the yeast is opened it is only good for a few days, and needs to be used quickly. Remember the bread mixes you buy with all the ingredients in them have yeast in them as well and if it is a large box of bread mix the yeast will die after a few days. So if I buy the large mixes for making bread I also buy the small foil packets of yeast and add what is needed. The small packets is a good idea because you only open what you need and don't have any waist. Hope this helps.
Post By Carol (Guest Post)
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Hi. I also have a Hitachi, mine's a D102. My questions are; a. does the bread sometimes rise and sometimes not, or has it not worked each time you've used the machine b. are you using the booklet that came with the bread machine c. are you sure that the bucket is clicked all the way down on the shaft--so when you 'start' you can hear the shaft and the inside paddle turning? ( I thought there was going to be a d. but I can't think of anything else at the moment. Ours is a workhorse, and has probably put out 2 loaves a week for at least 10 years. I'll look for your answers or you can e-mail me directly at tennesue @gmail.com remove space.
Post by tennesue
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Check that your yeast is fresh by putting a teaspoon or so in warm water. If it foams or grows in a while it could still be good.
To buy new yeast, the best place for me is Sam's club. You can get 2 lbs cheap.
Good Luck
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