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Painting Advice Needed

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Date: 11/06/2001 Topics: Cleaning > Walls | Gardening | Home Improvement > Painting  
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I am painting before the holidays. I painted in the spring and old nicotine stains from a previous resident of our home came through the paint. How can I keep this from happening again?
- Melinda
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Post By Pat Harrington (Guest Post) (07/01/2008)
Could you tell me if this KILZ sealer will cover smoke stains on the ceiling of a mobile home (to be painted after with ordinary paint)?

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Post By Deanna (Guest Post) (04/04/2008)
We HAD raccoons in our RV motor home and they left an awful urine/feces smell in the wood framing under the floor. Will regular Kilz paint cover this smell if we have cleaned and mopped with amonia water first? Someone said that department store Kilz does not cover really strong smells. Any advice - or any other ideas? We are open to ideas!

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Post By RHONDA (Guest Post) (12/04/2007)
I need to do a project that I must use a flame retardant paint, and I want to know if Kilz is one of those?

Editor's Note I think it would be flammable because it contains shellac. I'd ask at the paint store.

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Post By guest (Guest Post) (11/13/2007)
the problem will never stop until a high quality primer is used. since you already painted the table you will need to scuff up the paint with a fine sandpaper. prime with ( i would use an oil base since it will hold up better on a table finish). Tables and cabinets should be painted with an oil base finish to ensure maximum durability.

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Post By guest (Guest Post) (11/13/2007)
The problem will never stop until a high quality primer is used. Since you already painted the table, you will need to scuff up the paint with a fine sandpaper. I would use an oil based primer since it will hold up better on a table finish. Tables and cabinets should be painted with an oil base finish to ensure maximum durability.

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Post By scott (Guest Post) (10/19/2007)
I refinished an old table, cleaned it all up, then I painted it white. After 3 coats of paint, it is still bleeding through. How can I stop this from appearing?

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Post By George (Guest Post) (07/22/2007)
Can Kilz paint be used to seal wood framing after a fire so the smoke odor does not return after the dry wall is replaced?

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Post by Cyinda (624) | (04/02/2007)
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Yes, I had the same exact thing happen. What a mess! I made 2 mistakes, #1 Using cheep paint, #2 not using a stain blocking primer first!

---> I would recommend either a shellac in alcohol based stain blocking primer like Zinsser B-I-N. This is a fairly nontoxic primer recommended for schools, hospitals & places where food is served because it's alcohol based & the smell dissipates within 2 days! It's also one of the least expensive & frequently goes on sale. Advertised to "Seal in tough stains, pet, smoke and fire odors". (this is a good primer to use in homes where someone has alergies or asthma)

---> Or Zinsser 123, this is more expensive because it's indoor & outdoor. This primer is great in covering mold too! This primer can be tinted to a light color of your choice & if you want a flat paint look, you might not even need to paint over it (on ceilings only) & one coat will probably do! (Tough Acrylic water based formula) Hardly any nasty smell.

*** We had a house fire & the pros used oil based "Kills", but OH! what a nasty toxic horrible lingering smell it has! <*YUCK!*> The smell last's for days... If you use this: Open the windows & wear a good respirator for sure! If you're set on using Kills, you may want to buy their new low odor or their latex based primer.
Another down side to using the kills brands is you can't tint it. (there's not enough room in the can)

http://www.zinsser.com/subcat.asp?CategoryID=1

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Post By Olivianc49@aol.com (Guest Post) (04/02/2007)
How do I clean kilz off stained oak chair railing and baseboard?

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Post By Willietta (Guest Post) (10/09/2006)
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Kilz is a white primer I use.
Home Depot or Lowes will help you with the primer you need for your project as you may need a clear primer for some projects.

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Post By Troy (Guest Post) (08/20/2006)
How do you get kerosene soot off of walls / ceilings? Can you paint over it?

Editor's Note: I'd seal it in with a shellac based primer. It will cover just about anything. It might take 2 coats with kerosene soot. Washing would probably just spread it around.

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Post By steve (Guest Post) (08/15/2006)
We had a big problem with bats and after the clean up they sprayed kilz paint all over the wood on the walls before putting up the drywall can this be harmful because they also painted the floor and it still isn't carpeted.

Editor's Note: Kilz should seal in the bat odors. Once it is dry and the odor goes away, it should be safe. It is basically shellac based.

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Post By rosemary jamail (Guest Post) (03/19/2006)
I have a water stain on my white ceiling, I have used kilz primer in a spray can and painted and the stain is as prominent as ever. Help!

Editor's Note: Are you sure that the water is not still coming through? If the water stain is not completely dry, the Kilz won't be able to cover it properly. Check the attic to make sure that the stain is dry. if whatever caused the water stain in the first place is still dripping, fix that first, then dry thoroughly with a hair dryer and try again. Hope this helps.

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Post By Ken (Guest Post) (01/06/2006)
Use a good sealer - Kilz original oil based works great

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Post By (Guest Post) (09/04/2005)
Kilz doesn't work on old wood stain... We found out the hard way that if you're painting over old wood that has been stained, take the time to strip the wood completely and remove old varnish and stain. Then prime and paint. We sanded the trim and moulding in our "fixer-upper" and then used 2 coats of KILZ and then 2 coats of paint, and whenever the trim gets moist (like from steam in the bath), the old brown stain still seeps through. Short of starting all over, we still don't know how to stop this. Just keep wiping it off, I guess.

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Post by chickybiker (17) | (08/16/2004)
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You really ought to clean the surfaces before you paint with some sugar-soap. (No it's not just sugar and soap!) It gets all the dirt off so there's none to come through afterwards. It even removes soot from accidental fires. A friend of mine was unfortunate enough to find out some years back.

It's 'sugar-soap' in the UK, I don't know what it'd be elsewhere. Try looking in your local decorating supplies store.

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| (11/09/2001)
I recommend going to the paint store or Kmart and get Kilz it is a stain blocker it comes in cans and also spray cans (if you only need to cover small areas.)

Once some threw pie dough up in the air and stuck on the ceiling no matter how many times we painted the stain would come through, the Kilz worked, no more ghostly pie dough stain.

Liz acraftycat

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| (11/07/2001)
The use of a primer called B I N primer sealer will seal all the nicotine stains in. Before you paint walls you should wash with TSP and rinse very well. Then paint but if there are water stains, new drywall, or nicotine stains, B I N primer solvent base is the answer, no more bleed thru.
- Barb

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| (11/07/2001)
Try using an undercoat of primer (like KILZ) first, then painting.
- Tina

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| (11/07/2001)
There is a product called Kilz that you can paint on as a base coat, then use regular paint over it after it dries. This stuff is unreal -- it covers
water damage, grease stains, just about anything -- I'm sure it would keep nicotine stains from resurfacing! It's sold on the paint aisle. It smells
AWFUL, though, so have adequate ventilation when you use it!
- Becki in Indiana

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