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Getting Rid of Creeping Charlie

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Date: 10/25/2006 Topics: Gardening > Weeds | Readers Request > Gardening  
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Question:

I don't know how to get rid of creeping charlie without killing what's left of my grass. This stuff is horrible. Please help me save my lawn.

Hardiness Zone: 6a

Trisha from Ontario Canada

Answer:

Trisha,

This is never the popular answer, but my personal recommendation is to try to control Creeping Charlie by pulling it out. You probably won't completely eliminate it this way, but you can certainly keep it under control, and your yard and garden will be healthier for it. Pulling can be done by hand or you can use a spading fork or dethatching rake. The best time to jump start this project is late summer or early fall. Pre-moistening the soil will make it easy to lift the plants out.

Many well-intentioned folks (including some nurseries) may suggest using Borax to get rid of Creeping Charlie. I don't recommend it, and here's why. The University of Minnesota and Iowa State University have both conducted studies on using boron, a chemical contained in household Borax, to control Creeping Charlie. As a micronutrient, boron helps plants transport sugars. Studies have found that giving small amounts of excess boron to Creeping Charlie has a toxic effect on the plants. The problem is that applying it is a total crapshoot. No one recipe will work on every lawn due to the varying levels of boron found in individual sites. Without a soil test, it's extremely easy to apply too much. An over-application will burn your lawn and will injure (and/or kill) surrounding plants. Even if it works, it doesn't guarantee that Creeping Charlie will never show up again. Your best defense against Creeping Charlie and other weeds is to maintain a healthy lawn through good cultural practices.

Ellen

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By (Guest Post)
I've had to major weeds one wild violets and creeping charlie. I had it so bad that that's all my yard was in the back. I still deal a little with it today a few plants but really nothing esp. with what I started out with. I started using weed be gone about 4 yrs ago and would put to applications on a year spring /fall. It killed a lot but what I did this year helped so much. I applied weed be gone at first then 4 days later I applied Bayer weed killer not lawn killer. Then after that I waited 1 1/2 weeks and applied Bayer again. It worked well very well. You will lose a little green to your lawn didn't kill any I just applied fertilizer 2 weeks later and it greened right up.

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By Mikey (Guest Post)
True happening: I threw borax soap full strenghth on the Charlie, cause it was going to rain. Okay, I had a huge brown dead spot, however, I raked up the dead grass and Charlie & now it's the best spot I have in the yard.

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By Lynda (Guest Post)
I took a chance with Boron usage for another purpose: Apple Tree fruiting improvement. I sprinkled it all around the drip line like sugaring Cinnamon Toast and got good results this year. The Boron did nothing but improve my black clay soil, I suppose. It did no harm to the St. Augustine and Bermuda mixed grass around the base, as well.

Perhaps I lucked out, but then, I am pulling the weeds out as they appear, and sometimes think they're winning, but know that with an organic lawn and yard, they will eventually lose almost completely! Trouble is, the grub worms LOVE the organic element and had a party with my St. Augustine in the front yard this year. Now I'm nurturing it back to fill in dead spots with used coffee grounds, and they have worked, as long as I use enough! I hope to get my friend to get a soil sample for me to see what's up. Evidently a lack of funds/fertilizer was the main problem with this gardening/lawn science.

The used coffee grounds are free from Starbucks if you can catch them with several bags to make the trip worthwhile. I've had to make more than sixteen trips and gotten more than two bags each time since they're just about a mile away, but that's only on 1/2 of the front lawn and a LOT of spreading by hand. I tried a spreader but the coffee grounds are always too wet and would take way too long to dry beforehand. At least the boron worked for another purpose and the hand weed pulling has been successful! Too bad we can't leave them creeping around for the areas that on which nothing else will grow. LOL God bless you as you work and research. : )

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By markz (Guest Post)
I found this on:
http://www.hort.wisc.edu/mastergardener/Featu...

Controlling Creeping Charlie

Borax has been touted as an organic control for creeping Charlie, but research at both the University of Wisconsin and Iowa State University has shown that borax is typically not very effective and can injure turf and other plants as well, causing stunting and yellowing. Borax contains boron, which is necessary in very small amounts for plant growth but is toxic in larger doses. Creeping Charlie happens to be extremely sensitive to boron, so supplying more boron should be detrimental to it more than other plants, such as grass, that aren't as sensitive. However, since boron availability in the soil depends on soil type and pH, it's difficult to determine just how much boron should be applied in any one place. And there's little room for error: too little results in poor control and too much injures surrounding plants. Also, boron doesn't break down or dissipate in the soil, so repeated or excessive applications can result in bare areas where no vegetation can grow.

The best means of controlling creeping Charlie is with a postemergence broadleaf herbicide. As with any pesticide, always read and follow label directions. The best choice for homeowners is a weed killer containing salt of dicamba (3, 6-dichloro-o-anisic acid). This active ingredient is often found in combination products, such as Trimec or Three Way Lawn Weed Killer, so check the ingredient list on the label to see if it contains dicamba. The other chemicals in these combinations are generally 2,4-D (2, 4 dichlorophenoxyacetic acid) and mecoprop or MCPP (2-(2-methly-4-chlorophenoxy) propionic acid). Products containing triclopyr or 2,4-DP may also provide decent control. These products are good for applications on lawns, but can't be used in vegetable or flower gardens as many broadleaf plants are very susceptible to these herbicides and even minimal amounts of the herbicide will cause severe injury. In those areas it's best to hand pull or hoe the invaders. If there's more creeping Charlie than grass in your lawn, it may be easier to start over by killing all the vegetation and reseeding the lawn.

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Request: Getting Rid Of Creeping Charlie Without Killing My Grass

Archived on 09/12/2006

My yard is full of a 'weed' called Creeping Charlie! Any idea how to get rid of it, without killing all of the grass? HELP!

Cathy (01/11/2005)

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RE: Getting Rid Of Creeping Charlie Without Killing My Grass

I read in a magazine once that if you put beer on certain types of weeds in your yard it will kill it. I've not tried it myself, but it may be worth a try. (01/11/2005)

By TJo31well

RE: Getting Rid Of Creeping Charlie Without Killing My Grass

You can choose between a "broadleafed" herbicide or one for grasses. The broadleafed herbicides will kill your weeds but will not harm your grass. Be sure the herbicide you choose is not for killing grass and you will be fine. (01/12/2005)

By jlxian

RE: Getting Rid Of Creeping Charlie Without Killing My Grass

I was told by a nurserywoman that a 1/2 cup of Borax to 5 gal water will kill creeping charlie. Use a watering can to water the grass with this mixture. Give the borax time to disolve before using. (02/01/2005)

By Anonymous

RE: Getting Rid Of Creeping Charlie Without Killing My Grass

http://www.mspmag.com/gardener.asp?date=12-13-2000&page=3 this site says using Borax isn't going to work because you can only use it 2 times a year for 2 years that's it no more or you risk making it so nothing will grow where you sprayed it. It suggest (april 11? 2001 note) 2 ways to rid your yard of this pest 1. pull it up EVERY BIT OF IT ot it'll start all over. Or 2. weed killer 4 times a year with out fail is suggest you check with a nursery on what kind to use. Hope this helps (02/18/2005)

By Tracy Bettendorf ia

RE: Getting Rid Of Creeping Charlie Without Killing My Grass

Trimix is te stuff to use . Worked for me after many repeated applications (04/27/2005)

By Big Williw

RE: Getting Rid Of Creeping Charlie Without Killing My Grass

Use the following mixture and applied after cutting your lawn in a spray bottle will remove creeping charlie Take a pinched Chewing tobacco wrapped in cloth placed in two cups of boiling water once dissolved remove and add two table spoons of molasses once the molasses is dissolved pour into a gallon container. Add one can of Beer and one can of non-cola sode (Sprite). Then pour a 12 or 16 oz container of dish soap (any brand) into the gallon. Spray after every cutting for a whole summer and it will remove the creeping charlie. (06/02/2005)

By PaulB0319

RE: Getting Rid Of Creeping Charlie Without Killing My Grass

I woouldn't waste my beer LOL (05/14/2006)

By gosewisch

RE: Getting Rid Of Creeping Charlie Without Killing My Grass

Iodized salt will kill creeping charlie. You have to be very carefull when mixing the salt with the right amount of water or the grass will be damaged also. When I applied the salt directly on the creeping charlie the next day it was dead and the ghrass wasn't hurt at all. (07/10/2006)

By Wiliam Pietschman

RE: Getting Rid Of Creeping Charlie Without Killing My Grass

I'll need to try the salt with my bark areas...and save the beer for afterwards ;) (07/11/2006)

By camo_angels

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