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Finding Information on a Square Deal Sewing Machine?

Finding Information on a Square Deal Sewing Machine - sewing machineI found an old sewing machine in a storage unit. It says "Square Deal" on it. It has a cast iron base that goes with it. Has anyone heard of this kind of sewing machine, how much they might be worth or anything?

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July 12, 20180 found this helpful

There is a sewing machine company in South Africa by that name. They have their own Facebook page and respond quickly

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July 12, 20181 found this helpful

What a cool find! That is a new one to me and I have been sewing for mumble mumble number of years :)

I hope the Facebook site Judy gave you can give you more info.

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There is also an international sewing machine collectors society that may be able to give you some info on value. Their link is:

ismacs.net/

That I don't see any active or completed auctions on eBay for these at the moment seems odd...so either they are very rare and valuable or it just isn't season for them and they come up in waves. You may want to keep an eye out there and use SOLD auctions only to help you develop a value.

I do know people love the metal bases to redo into flea market flip items (love that show). A Singer base just sold recently for $49.99 plus shipping.

www.ebay.com/.../142860959068?hash=item21432d3d5c...

Let us know what you learn!

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July 15, 20181 found this helpful

Great find! Now if you can just find out who made it!! Most likely yours is a vintage machine as an antique would be over 100 years old but I am not an expert so maybe some of the suggestions offered on this site will help you find out more about this machine.

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  • The Square Deal Sewing machine company in Africa is a fairly new company and makes modern industrial type machines so I do not believe they were in business when this machine was built.
  • But - you can check it out for yourself:
  • www.facebook.com/.../
  • I believe your new found beauty is a clone machine and the name was for some small company and the name was never registered.
  • This machine, with the Square Deal name, may be only one of a few that still exist. This does not necessarily mean it is valuable but it may be something a collector would want.
  • I believe it is probably a clone of a Singer and may have been made in Japan after World War II but only a true sewing machine historian can tell you for sure.
  • sewing-machines.blogspot.com/.../japanese-clones-of-40s-50s-and-60s...
  • There does not seem to be even a hint of this name in Wikipedia and that says a lot!
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  • I would suggest that you do not sell or give this machine away until you find out more about it.
  • I was wondering if you had any idea if it is in working order?
  • Before you start looking for likely places to ask about your machine, check out this link as many people are sent to this site to ask about their machines and their answer NO, do not ask us.
  • ismacs.net/.../how_much_is_my_sewing_machine_worth...
  • But - you can ask questions on their site IF you register and become a member - well worth the trouble.
  • ismacs.net/digest.html
  • This is a good site to read as it has several suggestions worth noting.
  • sewsitall.blogspot.com/.../how-much-is-my-old-sewing-machine...
  • Here are some sites that may be able to help you with identifying your machine as well as give an estimate of its worth.
  • www.fixya.com/.../sewing_machines
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  • This says "bike" but it about sewing machines:
  • www.bikeforums.net/search.php?searchid=3320446
  • You will have to post your question on several sites as some may not answer or may be slow in answering.
  • Please post back and let us know what you find out about your machine.
  • www.antiqbuyer.com/appraisals.html
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August 23, 20181 found this helpful

so the South African 'Square Deal' sewing machine co. did not incorporate till 2002, and "SQUARE DEAL SEWING MACHINES, is a young and thriving company based in the heart of Maitland Cape Town South Africa. With this youthful exuberance and energy, Square Deal Sewing Machines has become one of South Africas largest dealers in new, reconditioned and renting industrial sewing machines. " www.sewingmachine.co.za/.../about-us

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so i very much doubt this was from South Africa

then the next thing to look for is who was producing sewing machines at this time, and who came out with either a brand or a knockoff - you'd have to see who was producing sewing machines around this time

When was machine most likely made?
Since this looks to be a simple treadle machine of the type common as of the late 1800's thru the 30's.

Who was producing sewing machines at the time?
here's a link of sewing machine brands, past and present


cybergrannie thinks it could be a Japanese knockoff which is a good theory. It has that Singer look though ti doesn't look to be associated with Singer because doing a search for singer + "square deal" brings up nothing (save for the South African outfit)

anyway good luck this looks like a fun research project

en.wikipedia.org/.../List_of_sewing_machine_brands

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