I have a cedar siding house which had a paint stain applied. I recently had the house repainted and the painter used an oil based primer before applying the new paint stain. After a month everything started peeling off, it was even pulling off part of the original wood. Does anyone know what could have caused this? The paint rep said there was no need to put the primer on since a paint stain was going over a paint stain, but did not think that would cause the problem. He then asked how long the primer was on before the new paint stain was applied. He said it should be done within 2 weeks of the primer being applied.
The paint stain was not put on for at least a month and a half. the rep said that the primer would have hardened up by then and it probably would not accept the paint stain as well. He said he has no idea why the original paint stain should be peeling of with part of the original wood. I have been told that the oil based primer being applied over the latex paint stain would seep under the stain and into the wood and since it was not covered for over a month and a half. As it started hardening it would start peeling of down to the wood.
Does anyone know anything about a situation like this happening before. Just to let you know, the original paint stain which was on the house was not chipping or peeling off before the repaint and as a matter of fact I found a piece of the original which we took off to install a larger door laying in the yard in may, which means it had been out in the weather all winter long and then the rain and heat, and the stain that was on this piece was not peeling and was solidly attached to the wood.
Oil base paint in general is best for cabinets and trim, and that's about it, I would use latex primer and paint on anything thing else.
I just got finished gutting and re-sheetrocking a home I purchased. Is it OK if I use latex primer and latex paint? If the results of using oil based primer would be that much better than I would use it but if I won't see a drastic difference than I would just use the latex primer.
One thing I forgot to mention. People say to go to a paint store. but, you have to remember that most people that work in paint departments have never really painted. They are minimum wage employees that took a few "seminars" that probably totaled up to maybe 8 or 12 hours. Experience is the best way to gain information. Each time any one I know has asked their opinion, they have been put in a troubling situation. Please be careful before you put a lot of time and effort, or even money into it.
I paint houses and redecorate for a living. in my experience, unless it's a have-to situation, I do not use latex kilz. It doesn't stick to slick surfaces...no matter what they say...especially paneling or slick wall paper. You can use latex paint over oil based primer, because it is only a primer. I think this will be your best bet. If you have already put the latex paint on the surface, please let me know and I will walk you through the steps to fix it before it gets worse. THanks,
Dianec I don't know if this helps but I'm getting ready to paint my kitchen that has wallpaper. A prior person painted over the wallpaper (it's down good and tight). They painted brown and then tried a glazing effect and made a mess. I went to Sherman Williams and they told me I didn't need to prime. He said just paint with latex (preferable a satin finish) and then I could do a glase (glase mixed with original paint) and put the glase on with a paint brush. They had walls done that way in the store and it was really pretty. Hope this helps. But if I were you I would go into a reputable paint store like Sherman Williams and talk to them.
In one of my former houses, we had a large wall papered wall 12 ft tall. We primed in oil paint then did our top coat in latex. We had no problems and it turned out great. Just keep in mind that oil based paints don't clean up as easily if you spill.
You can use a latex paint over an oil based primer. Do a test section if you have doubts. I have done it many times with no bad results.
I have used water based Kilz over wallpaper, paneling, you name it and I never had a problem with it. It is truly amazing stuff. Your biggest problem would be if there is any are where the wallpaper is the least bit loose or ripped. It will really show under the paint. But I have used all kinds of paint over Kilz with no problem. If you have already used a latex Kilz primer there is no need to use oil paint. The latex out today is very good quality. Oil is such a pain, so hard to clean etc. Id stick with all latex.
The reason they recommend you use an oil based primer is because if you use a latex, it could pull the paper off because latex is water based. So if you have already used the latex primer and it is still on there good and solid, you can go ahead and paint it with any latex paint. It should be fine.
You should not mix oil/latex primers or paint. The best advice I can give you is to go to your local paint store or hardware store.. They can answer all of your questions.
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