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Seizures in Dogs?

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Date: 07/23/2005 Topics: Pets > Dogs > Health | Readers Request > Pets  
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I have a Golden Retriever that is two years old and is having seizures now for just about a year. Our Vet has prescribed Phenobarbital which I give 6 pills a day. Three in the morning and three in the evening. He is also on thyroid medication. He still has seizures but not as frequent and we are still experimenting with his dose.

I have tried changing his diet to raw food. I am constantly checking the garden for mushrooms and fungus of any kind and I don't use harsh chemicals. His seizures started the summer of 2004 just after he had surgery on both eyes. Apparently the bottom lashes of his eyes rolled into the eye ball and causes irritation. In the meantime we were installing a new lawn and sprinkler system. I top soiled the entire yard with quality soil from a highly reputable source.

Mushrooms are prevalent all year. Our vet thought the mushrooms were causing the seizures. With mowing and daily picking has kept this under control. If anyone out there is going through this or has experienced this problem with their pet please reply. Any information could be helpful.

Another thing, Cosmo, our golden retriever is a male and his weight is about 115 pounds which I hear is a very large Golden yet he's not overweight for his size. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you,
Arlen
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By the colonel (3) Contact
For all the others pushing blame on the the Frontline product. Do yourself all a huge favor. Allow your vet to do the blood work and see what shows up. If there is traces of the chemical then maybe the dosage wasn't as directed or applied correctly. Also Frontline gets the blame for alot of organo phosphate products but people buy things at Walmart and just call it Frontline when its not. I've used the product since day one and never had a problem ever. You to see the whole story. What else is going on? Did anyone do a EEG? or blood work?

Seizures have too many causes and its just too easy to get on the band wagon to blame something that may or may not of caused your problem. You need to trust your vet and if you don't find a qualified one that will give you an honest answer based on facts and actual tests. Not hear say and rumors and internet gossip and bandwagon type issues.. No I don't work for Frontline nor do I own stock in the company. I've just seen too many stupid people blaming stuff on something for no reason other than they heard it on the grapevine. And many of those people you cant tell them otherwise cuz they only want to hear what they want to hear and wont hear anything else.

I've seen people spray their dogs with 7 bug killer in a liquid form and called it Frontline. Even brought in the product and you still couldn't tell them they poisoned their dog via stupidity.

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By the colonel (3) Contact
For the one the has the 8 year old American Eskimo. I'm a 6 generation owner of Spitz dogs. Seizures are common in some of their genetics as well.. Has nothing to do with surgeries or Frontline. It has 100 percent to do with genetics, and around the 8 to 9 year old is exactly the time they start to happen and will be something you'll have to deal with until the dog passes on.

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By the colonel (3) Contact
For the guy that has a Golden Retriever. Seizures are a common genetic defect in those breeds. Even if you pick up your mushrooms you still mow the lawn with a mower and there is still residue of fungus on your ground and you just spread it with a mower. Do the math. Its easy to look at an easy thing to blame things on, and not saying the chemicals don't contribute to it, but there are other things that are also proven you need to look at the entire picture.

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By heidi.liu (1) Contact
To Lulu: If you are still following this thread, please send me an e-mail at heidiliu8 AT gmail.com. My 8-year old American Eskimo is having the exact same problems after she got surgery to remove a cyst on her eye three days ago. Thanks and hope to hear from you!

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By notwrong (81) Profile Blog! Contact
After reading all of these post I am now wondering if my lab/retriever mixed had his issues requiring hospitilation due to heart worm med or was it due to his flea medicine which was given at the same time. He almost died we spend thousands of $ and now he has not been on heart worm med for over a year.

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By Alisa07 (1) Contact
I used frontline/advantix products on my dog regularly since the vet told me it was safe to apply on my puppy. He started having seizures at age 1 1/2 y.o.. His frontline/advantix dosage had just changed, so I was a little suspect but listened to the Vet. that there was no correlation. He continued to have seizures once a month in August, September, October and November 2004 (always 1-2 weeks after treatment). In November I found out I was pregnant. I was paranoid about the toxicity of the product, so I stopped treating him. In May, right before I had my baby, I applied advantix. Two weeks later, the dog had his last seizure. I have NOT applied those products since. At first I just forgot, because the new baby ate my brain. Now (4 years later) I'm really convinced that it was these products. Vets do not think that these products were the cause of the seizures, but it's just too coincidental that when I stopped using these products the seizures stopped. Again our Vet does not share our beliefs but has supported our decision and has prescribed Capstar for fleas as needed. Ticks are not a real problem. Hope this helps someone!

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By Mutt Lover (1) Contact
I have had medium sized mutts all my life and have never had one with seizure problems, until now. The first time it happened we rushed him to the vet and were told that many larger dogs have seizures. I found this a little hard to believe because of past history being none. My wife noticed that shortly after applying Frontline he had a seizure. She thought back to the last time it was applied but could not be sure if it had happened then as well. When it came time for the next application we were very apprehensive but decided that we just weren't sure. We applied it and to our horror he had another seizure. Needless to say we will never use Frontline again and are considering changing to a new vet.

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By cricket35 (1) Contact
Hello, my name is Cyndi and I own a siberian husky. "Zeus" turned 8 yrs old this April, and in December of 08' he began having seizures. My vet told me that he was an epileptic, but I didn't believe that. During my research I have found that there are several things that can cause seizures, but I never thought it could be flea & tick control that the vet sells!! I just want to say "Thank You" for sharing. I had no idea. Since you have so nicely shared your info - please allow me to share mine.

What you DO NOT want in your dogs food:
Corn, wheat, soy, artificial colors, artificial flavors, sugar, beef tallow, by-products, BHA, BHT, ethoxyquin, and/or ground yellow corn, whole grain corn, ground whole wheat, wheat flour, whole grain sorghum, nor any type of gluten.

Seizures can be caused by many conditions:
Congenital defects
Blood glucose levels that are too high or too low
Low oxygen levels in the blood that could be caused by anemia, heart problems, or difficulties with breathing
Kidney disorders
Liver disorders
Infections
Disease
Tumors
Toxins
Fevers and hyperthermia
Neurological
Certain medications
Low calcium in females that are nursing young (eclampsia)
Primary or idiopathic epilepsy
Heat stroke
Chemicals
Food allergies
Stress
Basically, anything that affects their well being.

There are types of seizures:
Partial seizures - affect only a small part or one side of the body
Generalized seizures - grand mal and petit mal.
Grand mal - A patient experiencing a grand mal seizure usually falls on her side and has uncontrollable muscle activity such as kicking her legs as if swimming or paddling. Salivation is profuse and often the patient involuntarily urinates and defecates.
Petit mal - Signs are brief (seconds) duration of unconsciousness, loss of muscle tone, blank stare, and possibly upward rotation of eyes.
Complex Partial Seizures - associated with bizarre or complex behaviors that are repeated during each seizure.
Cluster Seizures - Multiple seizures within a short period of time with only brief periods of consciousness in between
Status Epilepticus - Status can occur as one continuous seizure lasting 30 minutes or more, or a series of multiple seizures in a short time with no periods of normal consciousness. It can be difficult to tell status epilepticus from frequent cluster seizures; but both are considered life-threatening emergencies.

There are phases of seizures:
The pre-seizure phase is commonly called the aura.
The seizure itself is called ictus.
After the seizure, the recovery (post-ictal) period begins.

What you need to do if your dog has a seizure:
Try to remain CALM.
Don't make any loud noises.
To prevent injury to your pet, remove nearby sharp or hard objects (e.g.; tables and chairs).
Turn out any bright lights.
Observe your pet closely. Keep track of when it started, how long it lasted, and what his/her actions were.
Soothe your pet by gently talking, or petting if you feel no danger.
Call your veterinarian


I hope this helps someone! Thank you for your info.

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By Lulu (Guest Post)
Hi,
My dog recently had eye surgery to remove a growth. He had them in both eyes. Right after surgery he started having seizures. He has never been sick before in his life. He was in excellent condition except for the ugly growths . I should have never removed them. He is now oh Phenobarbital and miserable. He is 14 years old. Was the reason he had seizures because of his eye surgery? I mentioned this to the vet. She said it was impossible.

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By Liz (Guest Post)
I adopted a German Shepherd in April and began to apply Advantix K9, but only applied it every other month. About a month and a half ago, I saw my dog having a seizure and I had applied Advantix K9 that same day. The Vet mentioned that the dog must have licked the substance, but told me to write down the dates every time he had a seizure to find a pattern.

Yesterday I applied Advantix K9 again and the dog had a seizure about 16 hours after the application. I did not apply it in areas he could reach with his mouth, but it didn't matter. The substance goes into the blood and that is when the damage happens. Today my dog was lethargic in the morning, but I went out for a few hours in the afternoon and came home to find him acting very weird. He had eaten a piece of curtain and when I put my dog outside he ate grass, soil and everything he could find, so I got him inside. I will take him to the Vet and hope for the better.

I am appalled to learn that many people had the same experience with their dogs. Keep your dog off flea control products and wait to see if the seizures will stop. I hope this information will help.

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By Chihuahua (Guest Post)
My dog had frontline applied at Vet who then suggested to have one more applied after one week. The next day after applying the second frontline as advised by the Ved, my dog had a seizure. Then, five days later, he had another seisuer. He was shaking, and started walking backwards keeping his head down strangely. Hope this will not happen again. I AM NOT going to apply the frontline to my dog again.

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By Jake in VA (Guest Post)
My 3 year old lab starting having seizures on an increasing basis. The vet mentioned possible food alergies or Frontline use. I stopped Frontline and he has not had one since. ( 4 months). I am so glad I did not put him on some sort of medication. I dont understand why there are not stronger warnings about Frontline as I have seen so many postings since where stopping application of Frontline has eliminated seizures.

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By Clayton (Guest Post)
My Lab had seizures two months in a row from Frontline. The first time it was several days after application and the second time it was immediately after I put it on her. I need to find a replacement!

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By cassie (Guest Post)
I hav a 5 year old pom. She has been healthy all her life. We applied an off brand of frontline to her. She started having seizures. She had 4 or 5. We gave her a bath and she has not had another in about a week. After reading these posts here I wonder if it has caused hers.

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By Alicia. (Guest Post)
I have a 4 yr old Boston terrier that started having seizures as a puppy. We rescued him when he was 2 yrs old and never had any problems with him having seizures until 5-6 months ago. He sometimes will have them consistently everyday but then go a couple days without them. We never know when he is going to have them. Most of the time, they are in the middle of the night. I'm not sure what to do....we have tried some different foods but nothing seems to help. The doctors aren't as worried about it because he had them when he was a puppy but it freaks me out cause i feel like I cant help him. Anyone have any info for me, please help!

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By Sara Miller (Guest Post)
I have a 12 week old Dorkie pup. He was fine when I brought him home from the where I bought him. I bought some frontline at the vet, Our pup was perfectly fine before applying the fronline. After applying the fronltline He started acting funny the very next day. He has had several seizures now, he walks around looking at the floor and running into walls, he drools all the time. He is so sick. I am very upset over this. Does anyone know how I can report this. I paid $400 for my puppy and he has been to the vet 4 times in the last three weeks. We have become very attached to him ( we have only had him three weeks) Does anyone have any suggestions? I don't want to lose Charlie.

Sara

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By KToto (Guest Post)
We have a 1 1/2 year old male boston terrier named Ferris that started having seizures at 10 months of age. We have had an mri done that showed inflammation on his brain. He has been tested for every infectious disease I have ever heard of. It is not a tumor. He had a spinal tap done that our vet said had results that were conclusive with Ferris having some type of encephelytis that he explained was an auto immune disease where his body was attacking his brain. He is on phenobarb, potassium bromide and atopica (autoimmune suppresent). Is there anyone out there that has had a dog with similar problem? His seizures have been becoming more frequent. We spoke with a homeopathic vet that says we are just suppressing the symptoms with the meds and should take him off his meds. The neurological vet obviously says we must keep him on the meds. Very frustrating.

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By Julie (Guest Post)
We have not seen our dog have a seizure in months and don't apply Frontline or anything else thru the winter months because we live in North Georgia and it's cold enough where there are no fleas/ticks. I applied Frontline yesterday and he had a terrible seizure, the worst ever this afternoon. I wondered if it was a coincidence and looked up Frontline and Seizures and see there are a lot of people with dogs that have had seizures after applying Frontline. I don't believe it's a coincidence!

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By julie (Guest Post)
Last night my rat terrier had a seizure that lasted about ten minutes. She has had only one other true seizure that I've witnessed. She is not on any meds for them and I am wondering at what point should I consider them? I did apply Frontline last week.

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By Kirk (Guest Post)
Our rat terrier had another seizure last night. He is 8 years old and eats dry dog food (Beneful). He has had about 4 seizures within the last year and they always seem to be when there is excitement and food recently eaten. I have read all of the comments here and there are many good suggestions. I have used Frontline previously but not within the last 3 months. I will try the food first. Thank you everyone for your sharing of knowledge.

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By G in California (Guest Post)
Our golden was having seizures and we know without a doubt it was caused by Frontline Plus flea medication. At first we did not understand why. We put him on a strict diet and stop the Frontline Plus for 3 months. We thought it was his diet and started him on the Frontline Plus again. Within one hour of applying Frontline he had a seizure. Bottom line is Frontline causes seizures. There should be a HUGE warning on Frontline Plus - shame on them for making a product that causes such pain/horror to the animal and it's owner. Hope this helps others.

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By jmuklewicz (1) Contact
We just lost our 14 yr. old beagle that suffered seizures from the time we adopted her (13 weeks old). The vet said it was epilepsy. When we adopted a second beagle a few years later, the adoption person told us to try feeding the dog with seizures Science Diet Lamb and Rice formula. They had no scientific proof -- just trial and error by themselves and even some vets -- but were eventually able to eliminate or reduce dosage of Phenobarb in a lot of animals having seizures. We tried it and never got to the point of eliminating the Phenobarb completely, but we were able to cut her dosage in half to just 1/4 gr. once a day. She stayed on the until she was 13. We made sure all her food and dog biscuits were lamb and rice. Again, no one has any scientific studies to show, but it seems to have some effect on some animals. Just a suggestion.

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By cjackel (1) Contact
I have a papillon who went in for bladder stone surgery and a dental cleaning. Within 24 hours of the surgery he had three seizures and is now on phenobarb. He doesn't seem like the same pet. The vet claims they did nothing wrong. Has anyone had a similar experience?

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By Adam L Roberts (Guest Post)
I own an organic pest control company and have several customers who have switched over to me because their dog was having seizures. It turned out to be related to their pest control and/or lawn care providers. They cancelled the services and switched to me and haven't had any problems since."adam.roberts@forganic.org"

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By Pat (Guest Post)
Our chocolate lab has had seizures for almost two years now. Nothing worked. Phenobarb did nothing. He continued to have at least one seizure a month and clusters about every three months. And the phenobarb made him ravenously hungry. Two things that we changed and he has had one seizure in the last three months (1) we put him on potassium bromide (it is also not as hard on his system as the phenobarb. (2) we stopped using Frontline. Everything is good right now. Try both these steps before the phenobarb. Phenobarb is terrible for your dog.

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By Patty from Tampa (Guest Post)
My 6-year-old golden retriever started having seizures in July 2005. He had three seizures, each three months apart. He was eating IAMS. In January, I started cooking homemade dog food (chicken, rice, vegetables) for both of my dogs, adding calcium and a little flax seed oil. It has been eight months and he has not had any seizures. I wonder if it was something in the food. One seizure occurred after I had poured the last of a bag of dry IAMS into his bowl, including the powdery residue at the bottom of the bag. Anyway, he takes no drugs. I also give him a few drops of the flower extract Rescue Remedy when he appears nervous, such as during thunder storms. Hope that helps someone.

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By IMAQT1962 (Guest Post)
WE HAVE A 9 1/2 YEAR OLD COCKER SPANIEL.SHE HAS HAD SEIZURES SINCE SHE WAS 1.SHE IS EPILEPTIC AND TAKES PHENABARBITAL TWICE A DAY. WE HAVE HAD TO OVER THE YEARS INCREASE HER MED'S BUT I WOULDN'T PUT HER DOWN FOR ANYTHING.SHE STILL ENJOYS A VERY HAPPY AND PRODUCTIVE LIFE. WOULD YOU PUT DOWN A RELATIVE THAT HAD MEDICAL PROBLEMS?

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By Traci (Guest Post)
I have a boston terrier, Squeek. She is about 16 months old. She had her first one at 6 months, second at 11 months and has been having them consistantly now about every thirty days. She is currently on two pheno per day. My husband and I are at odds as to whether she should be put down or not. Her seizures last a couple of hours then it takes her a couple of days to get completely back to normal. He thinks she should be put to sleep because it is not fair for her to have to go through this. I think it would not be fair to take her life because she loves life when she is not seizing. At what point is to much seizure? Any advise?

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By (Guest Post)
We have a 1 yr old rat terrier and last night she had a seizure and totally freaked me out, I thought she was choking. She was running around, stopped and seemed to be pukeing and the just fell over stiff. I grabbed her and she was not breathing so I stuck my finger down her throat to clear her airway. She gagged and then came to. I didn't think it could of been a seizure till this morning, then I remembered that she did have foam around her mouth but I thought it could of been from pukeing. Taryn-the dog does have Frontline on. Thank you all for posting I've gotten allot of ideas to help Taryna and our other pups here.

Posted on 07/17/2006 | Report Spam or Abuse

By Roberta Tyree (Guest Post)
We have a male Boston Terrier that weighs 34 pounds and has recently shown signs of a seizure activity. Can anyone give me some feedback onto what to actually look for and the after affects of the seizure?

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By Becki in Indiana (Guest Post)
Our Golden Retriever also had mild seizures -- we did not do the extensive and expensive testing, but working on the suggestion that many dogs are sensitive/allergic to artificial colors, we did some experimenting with her diet. We switched her to Diamond brand Lamb & Rice dry food which contains NO artificial colors -- she has been seizure-free for four years now. Once you start really reading the ingredient panels you will be shocked at how many things contain artificial colors -- and the DOGS don't care, the companies color the stuff to make the PEOPLE think it looks tastier! Most treats and dog biscuits also contain artificial colors. Can't say for sure that this will work for you, but it worked for us, with the same breed of dog -- might be worth a try. I forgot to tell you -- Diamond dog food is not all that expensive, either! We buy it in 40-poind bags at a feed store (we are in a rural area). Good luck!

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By meoowmom (1743) Profile Contact
oops forgot
yep thats what I meant by 'rich' food too much
Protein. my dogs love green beans I had a cat
that went nuts to get to my greenbeans.
good luck

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By meoowmom (1743) Profile Contact
My girlfriend had a dog that had seizures, it turned out to be she was only feeding it IAMS ROLLED MEATS she would slice it thick and not give it any dry
food. As soon as she quit giving it such rich food
the dog was all better. Talk to another Vet and see what they think. Also try websearches specific to your breed and problem and maybe someone can help you. Good luck.

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By Roberta (Guest Post)
I have had sighthounds for many years and I'm seeing more and more seizures in my breed but not in my dogs. Most have been traced back to recent applications of topical flea products and/or heartworm medications. Most vets won't say that's what's causing it but, until very recently, they refused to accept that dogs do not need yearly vaccinations. I have blood titers drawn on my dogs every year and they still have vaccine in their systems, enough to ensure fighting off diseases, after 7 years. Imagine what getting the shots every year must do to the poor animal.

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By Tammymarie (12) Contact
I also have a dog with seizures. She is a Rat Terrier. She started having them when she turned a year old, right after we applied Frontline plus, for fleas and ticks. I'm not sayng that is was the reason why the seizures started, but since we stopped applying it, they went away. She has been seizure free for two years now. I'm thinking it might of been an allergic reaction to the chemicals in it. My dog is now chemical free, and seizure free.

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By Randianne (Guest Post)
I have a 6 year old Pug that was having seizures.....long story short...we traced it back to him gulping down ice cream....then narrowed it down to anything cold from refridgerator ie...canned dog food.....we quit and he has NOT had a seizure for a year now....

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By Lhouselover (Guest Post)
I have a 3 yr old Boston Terrier that we found a little over a year ago and she also has seizures and takes 5 1/2 phenobarb a day. She weighs about 20 lbs and the vet does blood work often to keep a check on the levels of everything. Her vet talked with a neurologist before going from 2 up to the 5 1/2. She is on a special diet of LOW OR NO PROTEIN. It is prescription feed LD made by Hills. She was still having some trouble and I found it that it was the TOMATOES that she was eating, also canned carrots will cause her to have a seizure. The vet suggested frozen green beans for treats and Angel likes them frozen or cooked. It is very hard NOT to give her any PEOPLE food except fruit and veggies.
Good Luck with your baby

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By Karen from Niagara Falls, Ontario (Guest Post)
I breed dogs--and have found in the past 2 yrs that I'm hearing a LOT--about seizures in any type of breed--purebred or Heinz 57---many of which are not being controlled by epileptic medication to the point that the dog is having to be put to sleep.
In all cases the owners had used, and I'm not saying it IS, but suggesting that it is being caused by a certain multipurpose heartworm, flea, earmite medication--starts with "R"--and some dogs are having a reaction to it. I was tipped off by a person who works at a Pet Ins. that there were many claims coming in for dogs for liver or kidney (sorry can't recall which one) problems and this was the link.
Can't say this is the problem with your dog--and your vet may not even know about it--bcz mine didn't---but its food for thought for all to consider.

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By Robin (Guest Post)
I have a collie that also has seizures. She, too, takes phenobarbitol every night before bed. However, she only takes 1 pill each night. 6 pills seems like an awful lot to me. Have you gotten a second opinion on the dog's problem? My vet told me that he considers her seizures to be under control if she 2 per year or less. We have so far been under control. I would suggest a second opinion.

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