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Very Old Hutschenreuther Selb Bavarian China?

Very Old Hutschenreuther Selb Bavarian China?Please help me identify this china. I believe that it may date back to 1857-1920 based on the mark; but I have not been able to match it to a pattern. Thank you in advance!

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March 26, 20212 found this helpful
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The brand is JHR Hutschenreuther Selb Bavaria. The brand was made between approx. 1814 to 1969. Names for their patterns are almost impossible to pin down (not sure if it is poor record keeping or that they were so fragile that many broke and then when they broke, no one had pieces left to sell that needed named.

I had a few of these for a client I tried to sell a few years ago. My listing called them JHR Hutschenreuther Selb Bavaria pink tea roses gold trim scallops. I don't remember what she got for them now--but I remember she was disappointed they did not fetch more.

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It's been a few years and since the UPSP started having issues with damage, I stopped selling glassware online, so if you are asking to sell, you will need to double box them (wrap each piece in tissue, bubble wrap and its own box and then those boxes in another box with two inches around in both box layers so the pieces do not touch the sides.

If you are asking to sell and want values, you can compare what is current on eBay at the moment (using solds only).

If you are asking to buy replacements, you can search using the criteria I sold mine under--using more or less words.

Just a hint for searching--The name of the brand is hard to read so you may need to search Bavarian tea rose or even rose. Flippers are lazy people and often list things with barest of minimum of words.

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Thanks for sharing!

 
August 26, 20210 found this helpful

Do you know the value of China marked creambeau tang Shan china

 

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August 26, 20210 found this helpful

Hi, I may be able to help. If you start a new question and add pictures, I take a look. Please take clear photos of the front pattern and the back! Thanks!

 

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August 27, 20210 found this helpful

Here is the link to ask a new question:

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October 1, 20220 found this helpful

Hello, would you have information on this China set? Thank you in advance.

 
 
 

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October 3, 20220 found this helpful

You will probably get better answers if you post this question to our current members. This post is from a year and a half ago so it is unlikely that anyone will see it to respond.

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March 26, 20212 found this helpful
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The mark on your pieces was used from 1857 to 1920. You can see a confirmation of this on this website www.theoldstuff.com/.../37-hutschenreuther-marks
It is difficult to identify this pattern. I looked through all the patterns with photos on replacements.com, but I could not find your pattern. I think your pattern is not represented by a photo. You can read the description of each such pattern without a photo, but there are 239 such patterns on replacements.com. If you want to sell these pieces, then just compare with the price of pieces with a floral pattern, a similar edge and trim (gold) of plates with the same mark. The price of the plate is about $15, the bowl $30, the cup $15-20 www.ebay.com/.../174215316123?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid... www.ebay.com/.../293311481468

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Write that you have 1857-1920 Hutschenreuther Selb Bavaria Pink Roses Gold Trim Plate/Bowl/Cup.

 

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March 26, 20211 found this helpful
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It appears you already have information about the mark and dates so it seems what you are looking for is a pattern name?
From information about this company and Replacements.com they either did not place names on most of their patterns or the actual records have been lost over time.
You said that you did research on Replacements.com but did you request information about your pattern?
www.replacements.com/identify.htm

Replacements has a lot of pictures of this brand of china but only a very small percentage actually have names - most of their 'stock' pictures show only numbers or number codes.

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Some sources say no name was given when the pattern had a 'short run' but I cannot verify that statement.

You do not ask about value so I'm not sure if you are just looking for additional information or if you plan to sell.
Value is very low on almost all kinds of 'fine' china and sales are usually very slow.
It also appears that gold/platinum trim pieces are not as popular as other styles. I'm sure you have checked all of the name auction sites for your pattern but if value is what you are looking for, most likely you will have to check out similar pieces (sold prices only for value) and decide for yourself what price you wish to use.
If these are the only pieces you have then it may be good to post them together.

You may have seen this site but it is interesting as to how many people do not know the pattern name:
I do NOT recommend paying this site for information but some questions/answers are free.
www.justanswer.com/.../8m3zr-two-serving-pieces-marked-hutschenreuther...
www.justanswer.com/.../6gbve-porcelin-hutschenreuther-selb...

Example of value:
When a beautiful tureen only sells for $15.49 - that is really low.
www.ebay.com/.../383997593030?hash=item59680a45c6...

Here is a link to eBay's sold listings:
www.ebay.com/.../i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=JHR+Hutschenreuther...

 

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March 25, 20210 found this helpful

Replacements.com has information here www.replacements.com/.../hutschenreuther.htm

 
March 26, 20210 found this helpful

I appreciate your response! However, I have spent substantial time looking for a match, and I have already exhausted that resource to the best of my ability.

 
March 29, 20210 found this helpful

Thank you everyone below! To clear things up, I do not intend to sell these immediately. They belonged to my grandmother and have emotional value beyond dollars to me. I am just trying to learn more, and I am going on memories from about 30 years ago. I plan on keeping these for a long time.

 

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March 29, 20210 found this helpful

That is really nice to hear.
memories are the best!

 

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