My Pack Rat Husband

RE: My Pack Rat Husband Post by meoowmom (933) | (04/13/2006) Contact Grandma Eve, I been married 11 yrs to my honey and he does want to keep 'stuff' I do toss out stuff without his knowing and he has NOT missed or asked for one item. It is not a matter of 'disrespect' its a matter of clearing clutter. I have finally convinced him that some people like Katrina victims could use that never opened box of dishes and would be happy to use them! I would rather have my good things re-used than sitting in a box rotting...and taking up space. So good luck... RE: My Pack Rat Husband Post By Grandma Margie. (Guest Post) (04/08/2006) I am troubled by the attitudes I find on many of these feedbacks. My husband and I live in a house. It is not MY house. It is not HIS house. It is OUR house. Many of the items in this house belong to both of us. There are also items here that belong to HIM. There are items here that are MINE. There is this thing called RESPECT. If I choose to dispose of something that is his..........that is DISRESPECT! My husband and I are friends, partners and equals. Neither one of us "is the boss of this house"! We share the decisions about everything. We could both be described as pack rats, although my case of it is more severe than his. Every few months we look at each other and laugh and say"We need to thin out this mess" and we do it. He thins out his, I thin out mine. We take stuff to Habitat for Humanity and the Salvation Army and rearrange our remaining "stuff". I wouldn't dream of disposing of anything he was keeping. That would be so insulting and unloving! We both know that we can just "be" in our own home. He can sit on any piece of furniture he chooses to, set his glass of iced tea on any table in this house.....and just "be". I do understand that some people take the pack rat syndrome too far and it becomes a safety and comfort issue. I think you need to deal with them kindly and firmly. Tell them some of this has to go. Say "You choose what you can give up, I'll put it in the car/truck and take it where you like, or I'll even choose where to take it if it's difficult for you to choose." Many will be relieved to have someone help them, they just need to have control over the selection process. I helped my mother-in-law this way and it worked. I handled most of the items while she sat in a comfortable chair. I'd show her an item and ask donate, keep or pitch? She'd make a decision and I'd move on to the next item. At the end of the day I'd haul the pitched items to our dumpster, take the "donate" to the appropriate charity and return the kept items to the "junk room" we were working on. Eventually we worked it down to an acceptable level. The neat thing about it was that the more area we got cleaned out, the more eager and willing she was to let go of things. I believe as folks get older it just takes so much of their energy and effort that they are reluctant to start on the elimination process. It just overwhelms them so they do nothing, and the "monster" just grows. I could be wrong ( I know I've been before :>) !)....but it appears that most of these complaints are coming from the ladies who are so caught up in having the "perfect" house to show off to neighbors, friends and the magazine salesman! In the final accounting of your life.........will you be proud and glad that strangers could say "her house was always neat as a pin"..... but your husband and children will say "well, I could do or have almost anything.....as long as I was in the barn or garage, the house was off-limits". The house I live in is a "home". It is not fashionably decorated. It is rarely "spotlessly clean". It is filled with many things, mainly peace, contentment and joy. The rooms are overflowing with happy memories and we make more every day. RE: My Pack Rat Husband Post By (Guest Post) (04/06/2006) my grandmother was like this...when my mom cleaned out her house, she had 19 coffee makers....here is what we did and worked out great...(the coffee maker is the example because she also found 15 bath mats in addition to mutiple of other items!) My mom and grandma put everything (I mean everything extra!!) in a spare room. Each time my mom went over, she told my grandma so and so needed something. My mom then took the items to the thrift store (without grandma). This way, my grandma felt like she was helping so and so, her house was being cleaned out and other people got a bargin. My cousin didn't like it b/c so and so really didn't need it...I felt that oh well b/c my grandma's mental health (and non beyond fire trap of a house) felt great!! And in reality, we that go to thrift stores do need it!! RE: My Pack Rat Husband Post by kimmcg (132) | (04/06/2006) Contact Try donating all of his "good stuff" to your local thrift shop, or to a local shelter.. Freecycle.org is also a great place to get rid of unwanted items. RE: My Pack Rat Husband Post by cookwie (540) | (04/06/2006) Profile | Contact If he is saving things, it's because he thinks he will need them again. Can you figure out a way to show him that it's more expensive storing all this stuff than buying it again? Also, stored items lose their freshness. Plastics deteriorate, crack discolor, etc...cloth develops spots. RE: My Pack Rat Husband Post By (Guest Post) (04/05/2006) Grandma Ev there are lots of cool ideas above i am a rat pack by nature family trait.The best advice i can give is to try and get him to focus on some type of goal.To do that you need to tap into his passion what makes him motivated.Does he want to help people?Does he have an interest in old cars?Does he want something for the house or a holiday?Once you know you can work on achieving those things that will bring enjoyment in his life which will then further motivate him to clear the junk.He can start to sell on e-bay or via local papers or give to a worthy cause or trade or recycle i do a bit of each.As we had quite a few bills of late i started to sell on e-bay{trademe here} and have made $1200 in sales in 3 months i have helped people by giving them appliances a car that i fixed up plus smaller items i give away to my mother who sells at a local market for extra income i send bits and pieces to recycling if i cant use it because it is difficult to chunk these things away.This way i dont wrangle over whether to keep it or not and i argue if i want something its down at the recycling anyway.Hope that helps Would love to hear what the outcome was and how it all works out brent RE: My Pack Rat Husband Post By Jill (Guest Post) (04/05/2006) If his stuff is in more than one room in the house, maybe you could choose a room that he is in daily and clean it out. (when he is not home, of course!) But dont get rid of the things he will notice missing. Box them up and put in the garage or somewhere. When he notices the clean room, it might inspire him to want to get rid of some of that stuff. Check out www.flylady.net She has great ideas for SLOWLY eliminating clutter and she says that if you hold onto things you don't use or need, you are holding back a blessing from someone who needs those things. GOOD LUCK!!! RE: My Pack Rat Husband Post By KLS8800 (Guest Post) (04/05/2006) How about telling him you are donating them (if they are in good enough shape) to charity. People who have lost everything to Katrina, Rita, and the mudslides worldwide can benefit. You never realise how much you truly have until you have met someone who has lost everything. If your items are not in good enough shape to be donated, then tell him that keeping them is inviting bacteria, pests, including mice, roaches, among other icky things... If either of you have breathing problems, allergies, and troubles sleeping at night, I would be surprised if the clutter did not have at least something to do with it. RE: My Pack Rat Husband Post By Lorraine (Guest Post) (04/05/2006) Join a freecycle organisation. You should be able to find one near you if you do a google search. I belong to one and it's great. People pick up all sorts of things off you, and you may be able to pick up things they dont' need as well, which you do. Tell him it's going to a good home, and not to a landfill. RE: My Pack Rat Husband Post By Tedebear (Guest Post) (04/05/2006) Hi Grandma Eve, Love that man and his pack rat trait! IF that is the only thing that is an "issue" you have a jewel of a man! Cherish him and ALL the "stuff" that comes with him. RE: My Pack Rat Husband Post By Fletcher (Guest Post) (04/05/2006) One thing you might try is creating an area where you put stuff that is going to be thrown out. You might collect old clothes, papers, appliances, etc. in one area of the garage or basement. Then, periodically purge everything in that area. This will help get over the fear that something which is actually important will be lost.