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My 8 month old male Sheltie has recently decided that he likes to run around the neighborhood, and not respond to return commands. I follow him on foot, get a couple feet from him and he just takes off running! I have never physically hit or spanked him. It's becoming very frustrating.
Annie, your puppy is trying to tell you something. He is lonely and bored at home. He is a "working" dog. Shelties are shepherds and they need their exercise and a mission in life. Grab the leash and start taking him for walks. Try to take short drives and walk in new areas too. We went through this with our Irish setters until it dawned on us they are sporting dogs. They want to hunt, run, explore.
This pup has learned he doesn't have to mind so he doesn't! Also it's fun to get people to chase him when he runs away. He needs concentrated training. You need to let him out with a collar and light weight rope such as clothseline for a leash. Let him play and run and then when he's forgotten about the leash and you, call him. When he doesn't come firmly and steadly 'reel him in' all the time saying the couple of words you've chosen. Don't say lots of stuff, just, "Rex COME! Rex COME!" over and over until you get him to you. Then pat and love him and call him a good dog (like this was all his idea!) and give a SMALL treat. Let him loose and do it all over again. Soon he'll learn that coming to you is a good thing and pays off. After a while, decrease the treats to every other time then drop down even more so now he's coming because you call. Worked for us.
Long ago my ex-boyfriend had a large German shepherd who would just take off. One day a dog catcher brought him back home after he caught him & threatened to lock him up after he had gotten in a fight with a much smaller poodle... This dog catcher told me something VERY important: He said that ALL dogs now & in nature like to have a certain "path" or more correctly a "course" they walk each & EVERY day & it usually is the same exact course that they walk every day of the year, sometimes expanding it to include wider areas.
After watching the "Dog Wisperer" Fridays on the National Geographic TV channel I've found that that dog catcher was right... This is what dogs do... & the only way to break them of this habit & also keep them happy is to WALK them EVERY DAY! ...The walk needs to be AT LEAST 40 minutes long... This daily walking isn't JUST for their exercise, it's mostly for their mental health & to keep them content & from wanting to wanter off on their own. Dogs are curious creatures & will get very board being just inside a house or a back yard. They want to know what going on in the big wide world (like we do).
Have you been walking your dog daily for 40 minutes or more? If you don't have the time yourself, then think about hiring one of the neighborhood teenagers or a teenager from your church to do this important task for you. Also, take a look at the TV show "The Dog Wisperer" it's on Fridays during the later afternoon on the National Geographic Channel... I, myself don't own a dog right now, but I've learned ALL kinds of things about how & why dogs think like they do. And, don't let the show's name fool you... It's not some "way out there" show about spiritual dogs. The show is a practical guide to raising dogs. There have been many shows about dogs that just "take off" running down the block when the front door is opened.
If you have "ON DEMAND" on Comcast cable, you can watch past shows for free. Just go to "On demand" then to "Family", then to "The Dog Whisperer" & find a one of the old shows that's about dogs that take off running.
PS. I'm glad you've never hit an animal because If you hit an animal, they won't understand why & it only confuses them. Our pets are Gods little creatures, given to us to become more understanding & help us grow. Whenever I get frustrated with an animal, I think about how WE humans are less intelligent than any animal compared with the Almighty & how he has complete patience & understanding with us humans.
I would certainly be looking at either dog obedience or that shock collar. Not only will you end up disliking your dog he will end up being hit by a car. Dogs can learn to be happy and content in their surroundings. Our dogs (2 of them) are always in the yard.( and one of them is a working dog-Australian cattle dog) We have a wireless containment system and our dogs are in and out of the house and completely content. Shelties are high energy dogs so he may need more exercise though. Blessing and best wishes!
I'm a dog trainer, and this is a common problem. If you are following him, then he's winning the game -- in his mind, it's chase! Try getting his attention, then in a playful manner, run the opposite way to try to get him to chase you. Clap your hands quickly and squat down a bit. Make it look like you are wanting to play. It also helps if you have a favourite toy and/or treat in your pocket. Make sure to praise him and reward him when he does come to you. He won't understand that he was bad to run away if you are angry with him when he gets to you. He'll just think you're angry when he came to you and he'll remember that next time.
Also, the earlier posts about the walks are very important. Especially at this age. He's a teenager who is finding the outside world much more interesting than you (his "mom").
Training the recall is something you can practice at home -- inside and outside. You can do it with someone else or just with you and the dog. Each person has a pocketful of treats. Just tiny pieces of extra tasty treats that he loves. Little tastes, no something he has to really chew much.
If it's just one person, have the dog sit/stay. If there's two of you, have one person stay with the dog while the other moves several feet away. The "away" person calls the dog's name, and then "come", encouraging the dog with happy body language. When the dog arrives, treat and praise, excessively. Then the other person moves away several feet and does the same: calls the dog's name and then the command. Treat and praise. Keep making it more complicated when the dog is achieving a success rate of at least 90%. You can move around corners, to other rooms, you can hide behind couches, etc. Make it a game and play it often to reinforce the learning. You want your dog to think: "Come" means playtime and good things happen when I come to the person who calls. When he gets proficient, you can try the game outside the yard, in some secure area. Start with short distances and keep the "training game" short and very fun. And you don't always have to use treats. In fact, treating intermittently, once he's figured out the game, will make him more motivated to play. And throw in a few jackpots now and then to really keep him interested.
I hope this helps. As for Cesar Milan's show, while he's done a lot of good and has a lot of useful advice, he does use some controversial, punishment-based techniques, and remember that you don't see everything on a television show. TV is misleading if you take it too literally. Read and learn as much as you can from a variety of reputable sources. Try Karen Pryor's "Don't Shoot the Dog", Victoria Stilwell and Tamar Geller are good trainers, too, as well as Stanley Coren and Paul Owens. All of these trainers have books and websites.
I'd like to add a note about shock collars: they are inconsistent and can fail and lead to bigger problems. They can malfunction and punish dogs at the wrong time at the wrong level. They can malfunction to the point of burning holes in dog's skin. They can cause behavioural issues like aggression, fear biting, and skittishness. They can cause dogs to fear or dislike things they associate with the collar: like things they see when they get shocked or the person who puts the collar on.
Just some food for thought.
I agree with dog winning. I had a yorkie and he would tear out of house like a bat. He loved for me to chase him. Thankfully we were in a quiet neighborhood so I would walk to end of driveway with his favorite squeak toy and would squeak away and he would coming right back! Once he ran up to this dog that looked like a mini horse huge and barked at dog yorkie all of 6 pounds thinking he was tough I went out squeaking toy he ran inside and had no more desire to run out the front door. The big dog scared him. good luck
My dog does the same thing. She is 16 months old and in heat. She will only ignore vocal commands when off leash in public dog park. I only use a small mesh harness on her and never any collar of any kind. If we are in the bush or on a logging road, alone, she can be exploring ahead or behind but when I call she comes. She will walk right beside me out there too when I tell her to heal. In public, it is a totally different story. It is like she is distracted.It is frustrating. I can't have her off leash successfully yet.
What I am doing now is that when I take her to a park, I hook the 6' leash on her harness instead of the 16' zip line leash. I drop the leash and we walk. I call her and run with her in the field at the park. This way if she sees something more interesting than my calling her or telling her to come, I can grab the leash when she is taking off in the opposite direction, before she runs into any sort of dangerous situation, like a big aggressive dog, traffic or a bicycle etc.
So far I think this is working. I am constantly praising her when she comes and I ignore her when she doesn't. Except to get her leash and lead her in the direction I want her to go in.
I am hoping that once she is spayed that her behavior will change somewhat, a bit calmer, less investigative perhaps. Hopefully listen better. Once she is healed from her spay, Roxy is going to obedience classes for basic command training. I sure hope that helps. She dislikes her harness and I dislike having to put it on her but right now it is for her own good.
Especially in heat and at a dog park.. lol. I am confident that Roxy will come around and listen even better than she does right now, most of the time. When we are in the dog park and she has played catch me if you can, it is when other small dogs were around that she was playing with.
Roxy loves kids too and when she hears them playing in the park, they attract her, just like other dogs do. The park I am practicing in right now has kids as well as the occasional dog. I think within time, Roxy will come on command, whether there are other dogs around or not. I am determined to teach her.
Shelties as a breed have a tendency to bolt (run away). They are also often chasers (anything they see from squirrels to cars sometimes)...this is part of their instincts as dogs of pasture so it's hard to train them not to (even though otherwise they are very obedient breeds). It's not just a puppy thing; it's likely you have bolter and it may be difficult to change that. A fenced yard is usually recommended to the point where some breeders will not sell someone a Sheltie without a fenced yard.
I have had 3 Shelties and they like to run around in circles,, run away and bark incessantly. Because these are innate behaviors I have not been able to train her to do otherwise. Our house rule is that no one, under any circumstances opens an exterior door unless she is in her crate or in the dog run.
My neighbor has a white American Bulldog, Holly, that is spayed and two years old. Every time someone comes in their house Holly runs past and then runs amok in the neighborhood. I am afraid something is going to happen to her. She is a beautiful and sweet dog, but does seem to need discipline.
What is the suggested advice to break this running out of the door, not listening and then running amok till someone can catch her? Thanks
By Michelle from Des Moines, IA
I would invest and do research on an electronic collar. There is a lot of info on them at leerburg.com.
Keep a leash close by. When someone comes to the door put the leash on the dog. Make it sit until the person is inside and the door is closed. With practice, you can make the dog sit without the leash.
I completely agree with Danialle! Keep a leash by the door. When the doorbell rings put the leash on the dog and make her sit as the visitors enter (have the visitors ignore her at first, to much excitement will only make things harder.) Repeat this behavior at the door when the guests leave. The leash and the command to sit are equally important. It's tempting to just put a leash on her, but she needs something to do while at the door. So make sure to tell her to sit. It will take a ton of practice, but it will stop her from running away immediately. Someday, hopefully soon, she'll be able to greet visitors with no leash and in a calm sit pose. Good luck! :)
Since dogs are food motivated I'd make a cluck sound when she sits and give her a treat. You'll have to practice this before someone comes to the door. Use the leash during practice sessions so she will know a treat will soon be coming.
As soon as someone comes through the door throw out a doggie bone. Make sure the dog sees it. Once the treat has been eaten teach the dog that there is another treat waiting just as soon as the dog returns into the house. Maybe let the guest give the dog the return bone.
How can I get my dog to stop running away and not coming back when not on a lead?
By Ricky from Wagga Wagga, NSW
First rule: Never, never, never call a dog to you and then tell him/her off. If you need to tell him/her off go to them. Remember that their understanding is that the telling off is directly related to the last thing they did (or if you are good, they are doing).
Practise your recall & really reward it when they get it right. Until you have a good recall your dog should not be off lead in a public area. You can give them running space by using an extenda lead.
And do join a training club please. You and your dog will have a much happier and enjoyable life together if trained.
BTW I am a trained trainer and breeder of GSDs and Golden Retrievers - dogs are my life.
I am not a dog trainer but I remember reading the following. Put dog on a long rope and let him run away. Then tell him "come " if he does not respond, rope him in saying come and when he has reached you, give him a treat. Do this several times every day until he understands what come means and comes without being roped in. After a while you can quit the treat and just pet him when he comes to you.
How do I stop my small chihuahua and terrier mix from running away?
What do you do if your dog keeps running away?
Christina from St.Louis, MO
For my Dachshund, he likes to run out to the street when he can, he isn't two years yet but I want to neuter him. Anyways, he likes us to chase him! One day I just looked at him and just walked my way home (he knows where he lives, he always comes back home with a big smile on his face) and he followed me after a minute that I didn't come back. And he followed me home, safely. Sometimes it's just a game for them, if that's so, give them more exercise! That was my mistake.
Our dog was a runner. He was a sneaky one. He got out. We don't know how. The gate was secured and the door was shut. He would get out so much that the neighbors just brought him back this time. Then dog catchers got him. We could not afford to get him out. The thing was, he is chipped. The animal shelter never called us or them. I had to call up and ask if they picked him up. For all those who deal with a runner god bless you. We tried it all to keep him from getting out. Nothing worked.
I have a Dachshund Chihuahua Pug mix puppy with chewing and issues of running off when let out or getting out of the house without a leash. How can I get her to stop these bad behaviors?
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I have a Shih Tzu who runs away if I put her outside without a leash on. She eventually comes back after we call her a lot. Then she just sits there before she runs and acts like she will come back. What do I do?
Unfortunately, it means that you should not put her out without a leash! If you don't want to go out when the dog needs to "go", use a cable system, or get a fence. If you need to, put a gate on the outside of your door that you can step over, but will contain the dog, or crate the dog if you have to go out.
Take an obedience training class, and get the little dog under control. I think a lot of people don't worry about training with little dogs, because they're easier to (physically) control; but they need it just as much as any dog. You'll both be much happier if the dog is trained to listen; and you needn't worry, trainers are not going to have you spank the dog or anything harsh. Training is done by rewarding the good behavior. (12/08/2009)
Take her out with a leash and she won't run away. You could also put her on a run and she can run about the lawn w/o leaving home, but a dog unattended and on a run is vulnerable to other people's pets running around and your dog would have no where to go. You could buy those underground lines that keep your pet contained on your lawn's boundary, too. (12/08/2009)
I as well have a Shih-tzu and she does the same thing. I have taught her to come when I say "good girl treat" and open up the bag of treats and she runs inside. (12/08/2009)
Please be a responsible owner and get your dog on a leash. In our state, it's the law. Any dog that is caught running lose is subject to the dog pound, heavy fines and possible euthanasia if the pound can't locate the owner. You are not doing your dog any favors by letting it run lose. He/she could get hit by a car, dognapped and abused or any number of things. I don't mean to sound harsh, but it only makes sense that if your dog runs away because it's not leashed, then get a leash. Real simple. (12/11/2009)
Run the opposite direction from the dog while screaming. I got that tip from a dog trainer. I had doubts, but when my dog got out once I tried it and my dog came running to me close enough for me to catch him. My trainer said it works 99% of the time. (12/11/2009)
We had the same problem with Buddy when he was young. The vet told us to have him neutered and it worked. He never did it again. Good Luck! (10/26/2007)
My 2 cents about the citronella spray collar; my dog did not react to it at all. It was meant to spray when she barks. My friends started teasing me about my "portable air freshener"!
My step-son thought it was funny to make her bark 'till the can of spray ran out. He's 26, and leaving home finally. Wish him luck. :-) (10/26/2007)
Apparently neutering does work. Our Jack Russell doesn't run away as often. There was no way I could have caught him, that was a job for the kids.
One thing we did was to stop chasing him. That helped. Apparently it's a game and if you don't play it, they will stop.
We live on a very busy street-highway and we finally had to give in to that he could very well be hit by a car. As much as we would have hated it, we couldn't have helped him when he got out. By not chasing after him, he seems to have stopped running away. We still don't trust him without a leash and probably never will. (10/28/2007)
I have a 2yr old yorkie who is a pain with the front door and no neutering him did not stop his running out the door. He just bolts out and hauls butt FAST and he goes out barking his loudest. I used to have to chase him follow in auto until finally I quit and said sorry we will miss you and slammed the door behind him. I spied through the window, and you know what he never left the front lawn. He kept looking at the closed front door and after 5 minutes he came running back sat on the doorstep, and barked and cried and now he is not running out the door. Whew, wish I had done the tough love long ago but it worked.
I have an Irish soft coated wheaten terrier 11 months old. He is murder when he gets out the gate. Just sprints away like a greyhound, no chance of catching him . I have decided to keep him on the lead always when out walking and on a long chain in the garden. It sounds cruel but he will be knocked down otherwise, I don't know what else to do. (03/02/2008)
By robert martin
My 8 yr old Bichon Maltese does the same thing. He is not neutered and I don't know if it is too late to neuter him. He has run away one to many times, but it's never my fault. I'm just happy he's with me right now cuz I luv him! So now I'm putting my foot down. I will tell my parents to ask if its too late to neuter him, and if it is well then, it's plan B: I'll have to be more stern with him, and watch him every time he goes out to do his business. (03/24/2008)
We have a "runner" too, but hopefully solved the problem. We invested in a 50 foot yard tether and a very secure harness. The harness is hooked to the tether. Before she goes out, and she still has the freedom of running in the yard. (06/29/2008)
Tonight I had my hands full and she ran out the door, down the driveway, down the sidewalk and into a busy street. She's a terrier mix, I have a scottie too, but he's good and if he gets out will stop dead in his tracks at my voice, but I've had him since he was a puppy.
This new dog, a female mix, is a rescue, so who knows if she was on the streets before or what. She thinks it's all a game. Tonight she stopped finally because two strangers were on the sidewalk and they grabbed her and then she came to me. I'm terrified she will get hit and I gave her the treatment tonight, picked her up and carried her into the house and put her down and gave her a firm scolding, not sure she'll remember it though. Help!? (07/05/2008)
My 1 year old shitzu and my 3 month old German shepherd keep running away and I am getting tired of it. They have ran away 3 times plus today which make its 4 times. I just don't know what to do. Every time the gate accidentally comes open they just don't want to stay at home. I don't know what to do I am getting really tired I want to get ride of them right know I need to know what to do I NEED HELP! (08/25/2008)
Alyson & Gregory Fairfax Virginia
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I have a 3 year old Scottish Terrier and read a book about the breed. Terriers tend to bolt off if they think they see something scurring around. They can be very well behaved even for years and then run off after something one day. This book said to never let the terriers out without a leash! I have a long retractable leash for my dog and the only time he is out without this leash is when we play ball as he is obsessed with getting the ball and bringing it back to us.
So along with our daily walks and retrieving the ball he gets plenty of exercise. (09/03/2005)
I have a Bichon Frise who bolts when I open the door. I never open the door unless he is out back, on a leash or gripped securely in my arms. Occasionally someone else opens the door and he bolts. I have to go after him in the car! When I find him he jumps in the car when I call him. You have to wonder what he's thinking, he has all "the comforts of home, lots of love, treats and toys" with me! (09/03/2005)
The only thing I could think of is to put his leash on and hold on tight. Keep it by the door. A little bit of work, but it sure beats chasing him or something worst. (09/03/2005)
We too got tired of chasing our 3 dogs around the neighborhood. We bought an electric dog collar and put it on. Once they dug under the fence, we said "no" and zapped then. It was amazing. It only took 2 times for them to understand. They are expensive but my suggestion is for a few families to go together in the cost and each take turns using it. You only need it a little while, then pass it along. We got ours at Gander Mountain (probably any hunting dog training store) in Merrillville, Indiana. Also try the internet. Worked for us! Good Luck! (09/03/2005)
Have you ever thought of taking your dog to Obedience School? What you learn is invaluable for both you and your dog for years to come. It is also a lot of fun for the both of you. The classes are usually once a week for about 6 to 8 weeks. For me it opened the door to showing my first Dalmatian. Check with your local dog lovers club or vet or pet store for the Fall schedule of classes.(09/03/2005)
I have a German Shepherd which is my first dog as an adult. Training is something I was not thinking of. Needless to say I have researched many things for training dogs. The first thing that comes to mind is set aside 10 minutes a day to train the dog about the door issues. Put the dog on a leash, go to the door and open it. The second they start to bolt out give a quick sharp tug on the leash and say NO. if the dog pauses after the tug give a treat, even if they try to bolt again thats ok then give the sit command and give treat. Repeat this for a few minutes each day. Once the dog gets the hang of not bolting when you open the door maybe try to have another person open the door from the outside and use same training method as above. The time you invest in this will not only save you time from chasing the dog but also money from a possible accident. Wwe all know vet bills are not easy on anyone's wallet. Hope this helps. (09/03/2005)
Not much of a solution, but my Jack Russell has/had the same bad habit. You are very lucky you can run after him. I just can't. My solution has worked though. Silly as it seems make sure your dog wears a collar with his name and your phone number. I can't tell you how many times people have called to say "I have your dog" - I bless them all.
My grandmother's terrier kept running away right after she got him. She had just lost another dog that did the same and he got hit by a car and died. Its not always the vet bills that will kill you. She couldn't stand the idea of it happening again so she invested in the electric fence. It worked great and only took him a time or two to get it. So the person with the thought of sharing the cost had a really good idea. (09/04/2005)
Keep a squirt bottle filled with water. Have it ready when you open the door and give a good two are three squirts in the face. Helps with many problems. Have a jumping rat terrier! LOL Good luck and hope this helps! (09/04/2005)
By kathy berrong
We just had our Labradoodle "Bailey" in training. One of the first things we were taught is to keep him on a leash (even indoors) while he's in training. When we approach the door together to go outside you must firmly pull him back and tell him to stay until YOU have stepped out of the door first. Do this every time you take the dog out. In a couple of weeks, he'll get the idea. Then you can move on to making him STAY when the door is opened. Otherwise, you're going to loose your dog, or even worse, he'll be hit by a car. Good luck !
ps -Don't forget to praise him well when he listens! (09/06/2005)
My dog won't come back when we call him. He just completely ignores us and does what he wants to do. We have tried biscuits etc but I was talking to a lady in our local park who had a similar problem and she had bought a collar that has a little spray in it. You have a remote control and if the dog is behaving inappropriately you can squirt it with this citronella liquid. She said the improvement in her dog was instantaneous and has given her control of the dog back to her. It is harmless, safe but not cheap I'm afraid. I've ordered one off Ebay and I have high expectations. Hope I'm right. (10/25/2007)