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July 18, 2021

A decorative china plate.Does anyone know what this china is worth? I can't seem to find any info about it's value online please help!

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The manufacturer's marking on the bottom of a china plate.
 

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You will need to compare it apples to apples with your color, not the others in the line. Your pattern is called
Windsor Green Multicolor by Ridgway and it is described by Replacements.com as Green Multicolor Floral & Birds, Scallop

Retail values for each piece can be found on Replacements.com. Here is a link: www.replacements.com/.../83987

You can expect to fetch 1/8 to 1/4 of what they retail for on that site if you sell them on your own. Replacements has a very high (to me) mark up on retail in the resale world.

You can use their retail and try to start that high, but in most cases if you sell them on your own, you will fetch much less.

If you are not expereinced in selling china, it is a complicated process--if you have a local Facebook marketplace group you can try to offer the set as a whole, but the money is made selling them by the piece on eBay or Etsy, but it can forever to sell off a whole set.

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Most people don't want whole sets, they just want to replace a piece they broke, or maybe they have new family members and they want an extra place setting--which is why it is easiest to sell by piece.

They are very fragile, so if you do sell online, each piece needs to be wrapped in bubble wrap, then double boxed, so the piece does not touch within 2 inches of the edge of each box. Then use packing peanuts of pool noodles between each box layer.

Be sure to wrap and weigh first so you don't lose money on shipping.

Post back how your sale goes!

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The original Ridgeway china made from 1744/1792 until 1940 is still considered to be in the high upper value range but china made after 1940 is considered in the lower value market as that is when Ridgeway merged with another company and then became part of Royal Doulton in the 1960s.

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Your pattern: Windsor Green Multicolor by Ridgway is said to be from the 1970's and seems to be available online for very low prices.

I did find a few different sold pieces in this color but all seem to be in the same price range as similar pieces so I believe you could make some value judgement price on any sold piece which is interesting as this is not always the case. I think this pattern is appealing as a mix & match color which may make it more appealing to anyone with any color in this pattern.

You do not say what pieces you have available so you may have to check each piece to see if any color has sold or just go with PGHgirl's suggestion on value from Replacement's prices.

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As a region, Staffordshire became the hub for many English porcelain makers and manufactories because of its close proximity to the source of Devonshire clay, a prime ingredient in the formula for most types of English porcelain.

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Ridgway began production in 1792. The Ridgway brothers produced a hard earthenware line of table wares. The Ridgway family was one of the important dynasties manufacturing Staffordshire pottery, with a large number of family members and business names, over a period from the 1790s to the late 20th century.
en.wikipedia.org/.../Ridgway_Potteries antique-marks.com/staffordshire-porcelain.html

The backstamp on your plate says Windsor. This stamp was used by Ridgway Potteries Ltd. In 1954 Ridgway & Adderley Ltd merged with Booths & Colclough's Ltd and from 1st January 1955 was known as Ridgway, Adderley, Booths & Colcloughs Ltd. From 28th February 1955 the shorter name Ridgway Potteries Ltd was adopted. As part of the restructure, in addition to "acquiring" Booths & Colclough Ltd, Ridgway Potteries Ltd became the holding company for the associate businesses of Adderleys Ltd. The ware produced at the eight factories owned by the company:

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Ridgway (Bedford Works) Ltd - Shelton
Adderleys Ltd at the Gainsborough Works - Longton
Booths at the Church Bank Pottery - Tunstall
Colcloughs at Regent Works - Longton
North Staffordshire Pottery - Shelton
Portland Pottery at the Regal Works - Cobridge
Globe pottery Ltd - Shelton
Adderley Floral China - Longton
In 1964 the Lawley Group acquired Royal Crown Derby Porcelain Co. Ltd and Thomas C. Wild & Sons Ltd, the expanded Lawley Group adopted the name Allied English Potteries until the merger with Royal Doulton in 1972. Ridgway continued to produce with marks under its own name until at least 1978.
www.thepotteries.org/.../854a.htm

Ridgway "Windsor" pattern was version of the popular Asiatic Pheasants transferware pattern. Ridgway produce complete tea and dinner ware in the Windsor pattern. Usually produced in a green mono-chrome although blue, brown, pink and black transfer patterns were produced.

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Occasionally the pattern was hand painted.
This pattern was likely produced from the 1950s and continued all through the merger into the Lawley Group and the ultimate take over by Royal Doulton - who produced china ware with the name "Ridgways Windsor" until at least 1982.

During the 1960s the month / year of manufacture was introduced and printed either side of the backstamp. Exactly this you can see in the backstamp of your bowl: "2" and "72" (see attached screenshot). The 2 is the month - February, the 72 is the year - 1972.
So, your bowl is made in February 1972. www.thepotteries.org/.../854a.htm

Your bowl pattern is similar to pattern named at replacements.com as Windsor Green Multicolor by Ridgway, description: Green Multicolor Floral & Birds, Scallop www.replacements.com/.../83987, but if you look closely, you will notice that the pattern in the center is different from the pattern on your plate. Here it is easier to see the pattern, like on your plate www.debutdeserie.com/.../1-petite-coupelle-modele-windsor.... The Windsor Green Multicolor pattern immediately catches the eye with two birds in the central pattern www.replacements.com/.../72404731 and on all pieces www.replacements.com/.../38210361 and all other colors www.replacements.com/search?query=ridgway+china+windsor
In any case, you have Windsor by Ridgway, Green Multicolor Floral & Bird.

You have not written what pieces you have. On your photo there is most likely a pudding bowl. I found a similar bowl with the same pattern (1969), the price is $17.99 www.ebay.com/.../284387565558
If you have other pieces, then the price of a saucer (1971) is about $6 www.ebay.com/.../133763281968,
a cup and a saucer (1974) is on sale for
7.5 Euro www.lavitrinedecaroline.nl/.../
You can see the price for the other pieces here (search similar pattern): www.ebay.com/.../i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2047675...

 
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March 19, 2021

I am having trouble identifying this mark for Johnson Brothers dishware. What is it worth, and what period is it from?

A collection of white dishware.
 
The marking on the back of dishes.
 

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You have Johnson Brothers England Athena. Athena is the name of the pattern.
The backstamp (mark) was used in 1950-1959 (c.) www.search.staffspasttrack.org.uk/details.aspx?ResourceID=19543&ExhibitionID...
You didn't write how many pieces you have. For example the prize for a set of 3-4 Cup & Saucer is $26-30, teapot $42
www.ebay.com/.../373489735053?hash=item56f5b9158d...
www.ebay.com/.../114377215837?hash=item1aa169cf5d...

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It appears the mark you're displaying is the earlier mark that was used in the 1950's. The Athena pattern was made in the 50's through 1999 and several marks were used after this crown mark was discontinued.
Athena was the favored pattern bought by restaurants so you will see a lot of different marks that probably represent the dates produced as well as the primary sales target.
You will find many pieces listed online as 'ironstone' but it is true ironstone only if it has that printed on the back. Some pieces will have microwave safe listed also.
I do not know if all of your pieces have the same mark but in checking listings it is rare that all pieces will have the same marks which means each piece is from a different time period as well.

I'm not sure any of this makes any difference in use or value but it is different than any other pattern that I've researched.
Example:
This listing for 5 salad plates has 3 different marks:
www.etsy.com/.../set-of-5-vintage-johnson-brothers...

You can check out the sold listings on eBay to get an idea of true value and the low number of pieces that are actually selling.
www.ebay.com/.../i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=johnson+brothers...

I do not believe it would be a good idea to list as a set but maybe in groups of 4.

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March 23, 2021

I have had this 23 piece Tuscan fine English bone china tea set for many years now. I am unsure of its value or how far back it dates. Can someone maybe advise?

Green and white fine china tea set
 
Tuscan Fine English Bone China Lable
 

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R H & S L Plant (Ltd) began its production c.1898. In 1966 it was acquired by the holding company Wedgwood, RH & SL Plant Ltd. was re-named "Royal Tuscan". Marks post 1902 include the trade-name 'TUSCAN'. The mark with note the introduction of the wording "FINE ENGLISH BONE CHINA" has been in use since 1947.
You have 1940s Tuscan Fine English Bone China Blenheim Pattern Set.
You can sell the pieces separately. The price is: Sugar Bowl $5, Plate $7-13, Cup and Saucer $25 www.ebay.com/.../i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2047675...

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Very pretty.
Someone buying this type of set usually purchases it for display purposes so you may be able to sell it as a set.
A sale may happen but shipping will be a tremendous undertaking as if even one piece gets broken the buyer may not want the set so be sure that you know how to wrap and pack extremely fragile items.

Your pattern - R H & S L Plant (Ltd) - Tuscan Bone China Blenheim is not plentiful but does not appear to be rare.
This pattern appears to have at least 2 different shapes of cups (you have some of both). larger cup is coffee cup and your 2 smaller cups are tea cups.It also has different types of teapots/coffee pot and also different sugar bowls.
You can see some of the pieces on Replacements:
www.replacements.com/.../105915

Two 'sets' have sold recently (one in US) but they are not identical to yours - different pieces.
This one sold for $100 plus shipping but I see that shipping cost was probably underestimated - too low.
This one does not have a teapot.
www.ebay.com/.../203270816228?hash=item2f53e281e4...

This set sold in UK for GBP 75 ($103.) but it is just the coffee set - larger pot and cups:
www.ebay.com/.../164659685129?hash=item26567b6709...

I believe you could list your set with a higher starting price with best offer considered, free local pick up and also state real shipping cost. Maybe consider $150-$175 plus shipping and if no offers lower the price.

Otherwise you could list them in groups and price them accordingly.

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March 21, 2021

Hi I would like to know about this Arzberg set. It has multiple maker's stamps, could I market as set and is it worth anything?

6 X dinner platesA set of white dishware.

 

6 X bread plates

12 X saucers
6 X soup bowls
5 X coffee cups with saucers

The marking on the back of a dish.
 
The marking on the back of a dish.
 
The marking on the back of a dish.
 
The marking on the back of a dish.
 

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I do not think it could really be called a 'set' and sets are more difficult to sell and very difficult to pack and ship. Shipping is also very expensive when dealing with this many pieces of china.

I believe this style/pattern was generally sold to the restaurant trade so that is probably the reason there are so many different marks on your pieces.
"Arzberg Hotel & Restaurant 2018 Catalogue
Published on Jun 20, 2018
Made in Germany, durable, functional and aesthetically perfect;
Arzberg is the epitome of premium quality porcelain."
issuu.com/.../xa9030_2018_arz_hotel_cat_mr

here is a plate like your #141 that sold for $9.99.
www.ebay.co.uk/.../154147631053?mkevt=1&toolid=10001...

You might want to try selling in singles or groups of 2-6 pieces so perhaps they will be easier to pack and ship.
It will take longer to sell all of the groups but you will receive more money in the long run.
Your cups appear to be demitasse cups (?) - if so, these should be sold as a set if possible.

You can check out the prices for your pieces on Replacements so you can get a general idea of what level to price your pieces.
Your prices should be started lower that Replacements but you can start high and if not sales you can lower your prices.
www.replacements.com/.../2693

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Judging by the maker's stamps, your pieces were manufactured in 1960-70's. The manufacturer is the German factory Arzberg (Bayern), which has a very complex history, and in different years it was called differently. In your photos with stamps, the stamp on the first and third pieces was used in 1960-1974 by Porzellanfabrik Arzberg. design20.eu/.../ The stamp in the second photo was used by Porzellanfabrik Arzberg too. The stamp on the fourth photograph was used in the 1970s by Porzellanfabrik Carl Schumann. www.porzellanstrasse.de/.../bodenmarken-nach-orten.html www.design-mkt.com/104026-vintage-teapot-set-coffee...

The name of the pattern of your pieces is Athena White. www.replacements.com/.../2741
The price of a Cup & Saucer $10, Bread & Butter Plate $10, Dinner Plate $75, Salad Plate $26, Saucer for Cream Soup Bowl $8.

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September 11, 2021

Does anybody know what that symbol is, and does it have any value?

A painted china cup.
 
The marking on the back of a china saucer.
 

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The stamp on the back of your porcelain says Liling in Chinese. There is also the Porcelain Tower of Nanjing.

The Porcelain Tower of Nanjing is a pagoda built during the Ming Dynasty in the 15th century. The tower was designed by the Chinese Emperor Yong Le. It gets its name because it was built with porcelain bricks. en.wikipedia.org/.../Porcelain_Tower_of_Nanjing

Presumably your cup and saucer set was made by Yong Sheng Porcelain Company in Liling City in the Hunan Province.
www.etsy.com/.../liling-porcelain-2-tea-cup-and-1...,
www.etsy.com/.../yong-sheng-porcelain-company-pagoda...

I found cups and saucers with slightly similar patterns:
Colorful 1970s Lotus Flower Yong Sheng Porcelain Cup & Saucer Gold Rim with the price $18 www.ebay.com/.../184573652841
Nanjing Pagoda China Demitasse Cup and Saucer, Lotus Blossom MM113X $14.95 www.ebay.com/.../324625093184

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April 5, 2017

I'm trying to find out about French Saxon china. It says 22 carat gold on the bottom.


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Maybe you can find your pattern on Replacements:

www.replacements.com/.../?query=french+saxon

A large amount of Saxon china has 22 carat gold but there are several patterns now listed on eBay that you may find your pattern.

www.ebay.com/.../i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p5508.m570...

www.ebay.com/.../i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=french...

This site has photos of many pieces also:

www.sebringohiohistoricalsociety.../frenchSaxon.html

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February 13, 2019

I have a set of Empress, Crown Victoria Collection china. I believe it was from the 50s or 60s.

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March 4, 2019

I purchased a 12 piece Warwick set of china with a rose pattern and beautiful gold trim. It's about 80 years old I'm told. I would like to sell it, but what to know for how much.


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December 10, 2006

I have a set of Nu Orleans china, made by Summerfield, from the 70's. It is an 8 piece setting with extra pieces, white with silver wheat leaves. Does anyone know about this china? Is it worth anything?



Thank you,
Jodee from MS

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December 11, 20060 found this helpful

Don't know Summerfield - But you could do a Google search & see what you can find out about the brand. Where is it made? Japan/U.S. - Is it bone china (more valuable) or of lesser quality - should say on label. Also go on EBay to see if you can find anything similar there to price it out.

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April 20, 2020

How much is my great grandmother's fine china worth? We have 6 saucers and 6 tea cups. The back of the china reads April 1, 1924. The Dresden style. Rosen Thale brand I believe. Can anyone provide insight?Value of Antique Fine China - china with gold edge and floral pattern around the circumference

 

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