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Porcelain Doll Identification and Value?

Porcelain Doll Identification and Value - doll in ivory period dressI am looking for help in identifying this particular doll. The head is porcelain with eyes that open when upright and close when laying down. From the bottom of the neck to the top of the head is about 6 inches. On the back of the neck on the doll are the letters CM BERGMANN S & H.

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The doll's head was found by my mother under a grain dry back in the early 20s and about 20 years ago she found someone to add the hair, body, and clothing.

Thanks for your help.

Porcelain Doll Identification and Value
 
Porcelain Doll Identification and Value
 

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November 19, 20180 found this helpful

She is quite lovely.

I am learning about German dolls now, so I know a drop about them..

The company is as you listed named CM BERGMANN. The S and H refer to (if I understand correctly) the artist Simon Halbing (not sure if I am spelling that right). Here is some history on the company:

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dollreference.com/cm_bergmann_dolls.html

Now for value, the only thing that is technically worth something to a true doll collector is the head, since your mom had her restored with hair and a body and these are not original.

I posted a link to eBay with what some heads alone are getting:

www.ebay.com/.../302883786055?hash=item468547cd47...

I am still not clear if older dolls had names like they did in more modern times. I am still learning and haven't found that answer yet.

I do know her head alone would have value, although someone who loves dolls may pay more for the restored version...that part of value is totally up to the indidual collector as eeryone has something they love and niches in their collecting.

If she were mine, I would probably start her at $50 in a day auction with a $300 reserve....this way, the market can dictate what she will get, you don't have to sell if you don't hit the reserve, although you do have to pay a reserve listing fee.

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She is very neat and folks still love the old German dolls. I sold off a DEP German doll earlier in the year and made a small mint on it...and she was in bad shape (like the heads that sold in the example). People actually like "barn finds" untouched...which is why I am suggesting the method of sales above to test the market since technically she is an already restored barn find.

Please post back if you sell her and what you fetch for her. I am very curious and am gathering values for dolls for my knowledge!!

Thanks for sharing her!

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November 19, 20180 found this helpful

Sorry. This should read 7 day auction. Apologies for my terrible typing!

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November 19, 20180 found this helpful

Even though this is an old doll and the head is from a well-known manufacturer, it is not an original doll because the body was restored. I would take to to a doll dealer. You can also go to the forum at www.dollreference.com and ask their opinion.

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November 23, 20180 found this helpful

You may have to do a lot of research to find the doll head model number unless you ask your question on a doll forum site - one that specializes in vintage/antique dolls as the head number is the key to when the head was made.

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  • I believe the doll head was made by S & H (Simon & Halbig) for C.M. Bergmann so when doing any research you will need to use the S&H as well as the CM Bergmann as both companies were involved in making/selling this doll head.
  • There is no way to date the head without the model number unless you have extensive knowledge of German dolls.
  • The doll head will most likely be the only thing of value unless a seller is lucky enough to find someone who wants a "finished" doll. Although, it is my personal opinion that the clothing on your doll may be nice but the bows/flowers so high on her neck really distract from her beauty.
  • There does not seem to be very many dolls listed for sale (on any high volume auction sites) so find this particular doll may be very difficult.
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  • You may not find her markings very easily since it appears to involve 2 companies and since S & H made so many doll heads for so many companies it will be difficult.
  • Here is a site that has some doll heads made by S & H so if you examine the ones that resemble your doll you may find the model number.
  • dollreference.com/simon_halbig_dolls.html
  • If you wish to post your question on a doll forum, here is a link to a very good site:
  • www.tapatalk.com/.../
  • You will need to post several very good pictures (mainly the doll head) as well as any knowledge you have concerning the history of the doll.
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November 24, 20180 found this helpful

THE DOLL WAS MADE BETWEEN 1881-1931,HERE IS A LINK TO DOLL REFERENCE www.dollreference.com/index.html
THIS WILL TELL YOU HOW TO FIGURE OUT THE DOLL'S VALUE.

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